How does a god know he/she is all there is?

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May 8th, 2017 at 4:29:36 PM permalink
Dalex64
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I wouldn't put lying on that list. It happens at all levels of society and is an accepted norm and rarely punished or condemned from a religious point of view.

The punishments for lying are legally codified now, not morally.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
May 9th, 2017 at 6:30:46 AM permalink
Nareed
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Let's see:

The Christian god gives voice to prejudices and infuses them with supreme authority. He claims to be able to do everything. When it comes to actually getting him to do something for you, 9 times out of ten you get nothing. And the time you get something, it looks as though this deity is taking credit for what other people did. This deity is also thin-skinned, to the point that speech of certain kinds becomes an unforgivable crime. And lastly, this god is completely ignorant of the workings of the universe.

So the Christian god is like Donald Trump.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 9th, 2017 at 12:36:15 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Nareed


So the Christian god is like Donald Trump.


Except Trump actually gets things done,
god does nothing except give us moral
suggestions. Supposedly.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 9th, 2017 at 1:41:02 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
No, morality is an evolving thing, it
constantly changes as society changes.
The big ones, killing, stealing, lying,
never change. But the rest do. Morality
is fluid, never written in stone.


The big ones are the ones I am talking about. The 10 commandments never change but how we apply them in our cultures and in our time does change in our ethics, sometimes for the better, sometimes not.



Quote:
Even if that's your deepest prayer, he
gets to decide what's best for you?
So you admit what Jesus supposedly
said about praying and getting what
you want is just made up hokum to
sell the new religion to the rubes.


No Jesus will always answer your deepest prayers, what we all really want. And yes He decides what is best for you because He actually knows. How many times have you pursued something thinking this is what will really make me happy only to be disappointed. We often don't know what is best for us, but God does.
May 9th, 2017 at 2:24:00 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
No Jesus will always answer your deepest prayers, what we all really want. And yes He decides what is best


You just contradicted yourself! We get
what we pray for as long as Jesus thinks
it's best? That is NOT getting what you
want deep down. Because yes, deep
down many people really do want to
be rich more than anything in the world.
So it's useless to pray unless it's for
something on Jesus very limited list
of things he may or may not give you.

Too bad Jesus left that little caveat out
of what he supposedly said in the NT.
"I'll give you anything you ask for, EXCEPT....
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 9th, 2017 at 2:38:05 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Why do people want to be rich more than anything in the world?
May 9th, 2017 at 2:46:10 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
Why do people want to be rich more than anything in the world?


Because few other things are as soul-crushing as poverty?
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 9th, 2017 at 3:01:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Why do people want to be rich more than anything in the world?


Sometimes you have to get rich to
understand it's not all there is. Do
you realize how many people go
to their deathbeds thinking 'If
only I'd been rich?" Yes, you
can tell them a million times
it's not what they really need or
want, it will have no impact on
them whatsoever.

You stand on the moral high
ground, not willing to give people
the opportunity to work thru the
needed process to get where you
are. That's what's wrong with
organized religion of your type.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 9th, 2017 at 3:19:57 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Nareed
Because few other things are as soul-crushing as poverty?


I would think one of those things that truly crushes our soul are riches.
May 9th, 2017 at 3:27:53 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
I would think one of those things that truly crushes our soul are riches.


That's easy to say, when you know you'll never go hungry, will always have medical care available, and you don't go to bed every night hoping your children will all still be alive come morning.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
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