Where will Bitcoin be on 9/4/2018?
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December 19th, 2017 at 5:10:11 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Key is "while you can." Probably have 1-3 years before a real clampdown. The IRS is like a mafia boss. They would take heroin profits and not care where they came from as long as you declared it I swear! At the moment, BC is probably not worth their hassle, but is on their radar.
I don't know all the details, but remember the US Government can shut out any entity it wants to from the world system at will. They are deciding it is simply not worth the hassle. FWIW, this is one reason you are seeing wealthy people renounce USA Citizenship. Too many strings. The President is a fink. |
December 19th, 2017 at 9:48:02 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4969 |
Yes, according to the IRS you do have to pay tax on it and file a 1099 on the contractor. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf "Payments using virtual currency made to independent contractors and other service providers are taxable and self-employment tax rules generally apply. Normally, payers must issue Form 1099." https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-virtual-currency-guidance At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
December 19th, 2017 at 9:49:36 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I can pretty much confirm this. Only the s&*t banks, like ones with billions in bad debt from Greece, will give an American an account. I've heard if you have in the seven figures to put in the bank, better ones in Hong Kong or Singapore will talk to you. If you get to eight figures then they will talk to you in Europe. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
December 19th, 2017 at 9:51:14 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Why shouldn't they? Shouldn't a heroin salesman pay his fair share too? Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
December 19th, 2017 at 10:21:52 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 | ot I got no issue with it. Question is does he have to file a 1099 for his captain or associate for what he has to kick upstairs to them as part of his franchise agreement? We could eliminate the deficit in no time! The President is a fink. |
December 19th, 2017 at 3:00:00 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I wonder if that will change if they issue digital currency? There may or may not be accounts with digital currency, but they would be with the central bank and not commercial banks. If there are not accounts then money will be in electronic wallets. Although the Swedish krona is not in widespread use outside of the country like the Euro, the exchange rate is fairly stable.
A register-based electronic currency means basically an account based system. The issue is that it may conflict with commercial banks. A value-based electronic currency would have a code stored on a phone, computer or card and nowhere else.It would more closely resemble banknotes in functioning, and if the code is lost in some way so would the money. As most people limit the amount of cash they carry with them in case they lose it, presumably people would also limit the amount of value-based electronic currency on their phone or computer. It is certain that many people won't be bothered to use this electronic currency, preferring their existing systems with commercial banks. |
December 22nd, 2017 at 8:56:10 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Why is nobody here mentioning the meltdown today? 200 BILLION LOST TODAY ON CYBERCURRENCY ROUT The weakness was driven by bitcoin (BTCUSD) the world’s largest digital currency, which has tumbled in recent days. The asset has dropped by more than a third since Sunday’s all-time high; it fell 27% to $11,301.16 on Friday, after nearly breaching $20,000 on Dec. 17. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-much-has-been-lost-in-fridays-cryptocurrency-rout-nearly-dollar200-billion/ar-BBH9HQR?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 22nd, 2017 at 9:18:48 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I commented on WoV. I'm hoping it drops further because I bet a dinner that it will be below $10,000 on 1/1/18.
I don't see it that way. It was all false value, based on nothing. There was no 200 billion dollars waiting for Bitcoin users to sell that disappeared. Real wealth is unchanged. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
December 22nd, 2017 at 10:21:42 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | I wondered all along if the crypto's were a tool of the FRB, to mop up some of the trillions they have "printed" since 08? Two hundred billion here, two hundred billion there, pretty soon you are talking about real money. Or, where did this 200B, go? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
December 22nd, 2017 at 10:36:38 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | It's ironic that the TwinkleToes Twins were praising BC to the heavens 10 days ago and it dropped from $20K to $11K since last Sunday. They must be crapping their silk boxers every 15 minutes. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |