Does Religion Make People Moral?
November 30th, 2017 at 5:01:45 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It's always interesting that anything that threatens your gods authority is always the first and oldest and most important sin. That's why the first 4 of the 10 commandments are all about god and his egocentrism. It's also interesting that your god makes the same demands as every tinpot dictator in history. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 30th, 2017 at 5:07:16 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
The problem is no god exists, therefore no moral code based on religion is, in itself, objective in any sense. That's why you need the long rationalizations later. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
November 30th, 2017 at 5:08:42 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Yup, you hit it right on the head. Congrats. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 30th, 2017 at 6:14:39 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
The problem is our moral code is objective and universal. Therefore there has to be something beyond just us that it is based on. This obviously points to God. To explain it any other way requires lots of long rationalizations. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 30th, 2017 at 6:16:39 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
So you believe in universal objective moral norms that are not determined by governments or society, thanks for the clarification, I would agree with this. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 30th, 2017 at 6:28:12 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Do you beat your slaves in the manner prescribed by your objective moral code? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
November 30th, 2017 at 6:37:59 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
We discussed this to death in the sin thread. It points to no such thing unless you want it to or have been taught it does. Which religious people have. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 30th, 2017 at 6:59:11 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I think the objective moral code for human beings forbids slavery and the mistreatment of anyone. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
November 30th, 2017 at 8:09:56 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Yes, you could put it that way. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
November 30th, 2017 at 8:14:20 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
But they don't come from some god, they come from eons of trial and error and how to behave when we're forced to live in a society. They evolved, just like everything else. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |