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August 16th, 2021 at 10:09:56 AM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4524 |
5k cases yesterday, 40K in the last week, 24K in the week before. I expect that is not in the same order of magnitude as measles. Death rate in Israel for the last week is 14 / million. Death rate in US for the past week is 11 / million. You can't claim it isn't over in the US and is over in Israel. As I have said numerous times we currently don't have the capability to make this virus disappear and must let it run its course and live (and die) with that option. The more lockdowns and other measures that we use to control the number of cases simply extend the length of time which we must live with the virus. Are you ready for years more of lockdowns? Can our societies survive years more? "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
August 16th, 2021 at 11:13:55 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18764 | There's a hella lot rightwing quasi news sites trumpeting problems in Israel. MEANWHILE going straight to the Jerusalem Post. SEE BOLD
They didn't even have enough patients in Israel to do the study! MEANWHILE same source.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 16th, 2021 at 11:50:48 AM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4524 |
My first data was from the Israel Ministry of Health, probably fake news. The second set is Worldometer the site with the most complete data that I know of. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
August 16th, 2021 at 12:00:16 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18764 |
While some vaccinated patients die, I suspect the difference is, on average the vaccinated population is less sick. But when they are sick enough to die, they die just as well as the unvaccinated. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 16th, 2021 at 12:13:07 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4524 |
Israel Ministry of Health says Pfizer is now down to 39% effective on Delta. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
August 16th, 2021 at 12:23:30 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11805 |
Yes 39% But The big pic 88% effective in preventing hospitalization Thats huge The overall big pic The vaccine is VERY effective https://fortune.com/2021/07/23/pfizer-vaccine-infections-delta/ Bottom line. I've always known I can get the virus while vaccinated. This virus scares me. That's why I still wear a mask indoors with strangers. I took the vaccine to prevent severe illness. I am well aware I can still get mildly sick or be infected but not sick. Thats also why I wear a mask, i don't want to spread it. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
August 17th, 2021 at 9:21:47 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | It was the first day of school K through 12 and for a lot of colleges yesterday. What a giant cluster frick. One school district somewhere tested all students for covid-19 found 255 of them had it, vaccinated and unvaccinated, so they had to shut the entire school district down and quarantine. Huge arguments in every state over mask mandates, some have them some don't. This is not going to end well, we're going right back to where we were in 2020. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
August 17th, 2021 at 10:00:21 AM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12538 |
Minus Donny as president, so we’re okay. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
August 17th, 2021 at 11:08:14 AM permalink | |
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 96 Posts: 3103 | Gee, if everybody got vaccinated covid would get under control. Not go away necessarily, but the hospitals would not be overwhelmed and people would, for the most part, be asymptomatic or have less serious problems than they do now. |
August 17th, 2021 at 11:11:16 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11805 |
I agree but That makes too much logical sense for Trumpers They would rather check with Q Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |