Stop the Steal!

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November 30th, 2020 at 2:21:24 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko
Less believable is that Biden got 10 million more votes than Obama and 14 million more than Hillary, while losing minority voters to Trump.

????
Common sense.
Increase in the voting population
Historic levels of voter participation
Getting easier and easier to vote.
I used to vote early
Now I vote from home by mail
I think Asian Americans were around 75% voting participation and they voted Dem. A lot.more in GA then you realize and they have helped turn the tide in ATL
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/asian-americans-georgia-senate/2020/11/28/28521068-2ad2-11eb-9b14-ad872157ebc9_story.html
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November 30th, 2020 at 2:23:14 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tripdufan
Don't forget about the Fox talking heads.


I’m old enough to remember the right-wingers on Fox giving Hillary hell for waiting 9 hours to deliver her concession speech after a loss that was much closer than Donny’s 2020 loss.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
November 30th, 2020 at 2:55:30 PM permalink
Tripdufan
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Quote: Tanko
Less believable is that Biden got 10 million more votes than Obama and 14 million more than Hillary, while losing minority voters to Trump.

That means, Trump, lost support among white voters, and still received 10 million more votes than he did in 2016.


It's not all that unbelievable. 2018 was highest midterm turnout in 40 years. The pandemic only made people more enthusiastic about voting.
November 30th, 2020 at 4:03:21 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
PA very well might not be certified.


You're going to need to get a time machine.

Pennsylvania was already certified on Tuesday, November 24.

On November 28, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unanimously rejected an attempt to pause the certification.


Quote: Politico
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Saturday threw out a suit filed by a Republican lawmaker seeking to pause certification of the state’s election results, in another blow to President Donald Trump's ongoing efforts to contest the results of the presidential election.

Rep. Mike Kelly and and two GOP congressional candidates filed a petition in the Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court on Nov. 21, arguing that a 2019 law that created no-excuse mail-in voting is unconstitutional. They asked the court to either halt certification of the Nov. 3 election results, which includes more than 2.5 million mail-in ballots, or alternatively allow the state legislator to appoint electors.

The seven-member state Supreme Court unanimously agreed that the effort to halt the election results came too late, since the suit was filed more than a year after the mail-in voting law was enacted. The court also wrote that the GOP group “failed to act with due diligence” by waiting to file the petition until days before the county boards of election were required to certify the election results.


Today was supposed to be the last day for the Pennsylvania legislature to meet for the year, and supposedly 26 Republican House members were going to introduce a resolution to stop the certification of the PA election... but the politicians took the day off!
November 30th, 2020 at 8:23:41 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: SOOPOO
But Trump has broken no laws filing the mostly silly lawsuits about the election results. It is his right.

It's really not his right to file silly lawsuits
It clogs up the court
Most lawyers would be sanctioned for this.
He's not filing due to evidence uncovered, which would be his right
But
He's filing simply because he lost and is not providing evidence.
That's not right. That's abuse of the judicial system
That's why most of his lawyers dropped out. They don't want to be sanctioned for frivolous litigation.
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November 30th, 2020 at 8:45:01 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: terapined
It's really not his right to file silly lawsuits
It clogs up the court
Most lawyers would be sanctioned for this.
He's not filing due to evidence uncovered, which would be his right
But
He's filing simply because he lost and is not providing evidence.
That's not right. That's abuse of the judicial system
That's why most of his lawyers dropped out. They don't want to be sanctioned for frivolous litigation.


Silly was my personal interpretation. To my knowledge none of the lawsuits have resulted in any punishment against Trump or any of his attorneys. Unfortunately it’s a pretty high bar to nail those attorneys.
December 1st, 2020 at 2:46:58 AM permalink
Tanko
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The RNC claims is has 11,000 verified, credible, attorney-reviewed election fraud incident reports. Of those reports, more than 500 people have signed sworn affidavits documenting fraud.

The penalty for lying under oath is fine or imprisonment.

73% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats believe fraud determined the outcome.

“Forty-seven percent (47%) say it’s likely that Democrats stole votes or destroyed pro-Trump ballots in several states to ensure that Biden would win”- Rasmussen

If those numbers are true for the total number of voters, then 70 million voters from both sides, believe fraud was committed.

PA was a 780,000 vote swing in Biden’s favor after election day.

Rand Paul points to 4 wild 'data dumps' that put Biden ahead:

An update in Michigan at 6:31 a.m. Eastern on Nov. 4 showed 141,258 votes for Biden and 5,968 votes for Trump
An update in Wisconsin at 3:42 a.m. Central showed 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Trump
A vote update in Georgia at 1:34 a.m. Eastern showed 136,155 votes for Biden and 29,115 votes for Trump
An update in Michigan at 3:50 a.m. Eastern showed 54,497 votes for Biden and 4,718 votes for Trump
December 1st, 2020 at 4:33:37 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tanko
An update in Michigan at 6:31 a.m. Eastern on Nov. 4 showed 141,258 votes for Biden and 5,968 votes for Trump
An update in Wisconsin at 3:42 a.m. Central showed 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Trump
A vote update in Georgia at 1:34 a.m. Eastern showed 136,155 votes for Biden and 29,115 votes for Trump
An update in Michigan at 3:50 a.m. Eastern showed 54,497 votes for Biden and 4,718 votes for Trump


Damn those predominantly black cities for counting their votes!
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December 1st, 2020 at 6:57:05 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Do you know what stealing the election looks like? It's when 5 people on the supreme court try to overturn the certified election results in various states, or the US Congress refuses to count the results of the electoral college vote, based on allegations that STILL haven't been made in a court of law.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
December 1st, 2020 at 7:10:30 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Dalex64
Do you know what stealing the election looks like? It's when 5 people on the supreme court try to overturn the certified election results in various states, or the US Congress refuses to count the results of the electoral college vote, based on allegations that STILL haven't been made in a court of law.


If our Constitution allows the events you say to occur, and our legally installed Supreme Court agrees with the interpretation, then it is NOT stealing. But, please, talk about conspiracy theories! Biden becomes President elect LEGALLY on December 16. No Trump tactics will work BECAUSE of the Democracy we live in. It allows him challenges, which he has tried and failed miserably. All this blather is the CNN’s, MSNBC’s, Fox’s, etc... getting ratings.