Ukraine conflict

September 25th, 2022 at 8:57:22 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: petroglyph
https://www.rt.com/news/562875-nato-vs-yugoslavia-evil-war/

"Understanding the present-day events in Ukraine is impossible unless you study what happened in 1999 with Serbia. There is a Hegelian thread that runs directly from NATO’s ostensible “humanitarian intervention” to the Russian “special military operation,” linking Belgrade to Belgorod – and everything in-between.''


The historical record only makes sense to me, if I can relate it to, for instance why Russia massed its forces on the borders of Ukraine and did a full scale invasion.

It doesn't.

Since Putin gave the reason himself, the "De-Nazification of Ukraine", it's only fair to use that one. Everything I've looked at since then makes about as much sense as arguing Mormons are running the US. They certainly are most powerful in Utah. They certainly are an influence. But based on doing anything to the US in the name of the threat of Mormon influence is patently ridiculous.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
September 25th, 2022 at 9:08:51 PM permalink
missedhervee
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We need to send a lot more arms and ammo to Ukraine; a whole new bunch of Russians will soon need to be killed.

Got to love these proxy wars.
September 26th, 2022 at 3:48:37 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: petroglyph
https://www.rt.com/news/562875-nato-vs-yugoslavia-evil-war/

"Understanding the present-day events in Ukraine is impossible unless you study what happened in 1999 with Serbia. There is a Hegelian thread that runs directly from NATO’s ostensible “humanitarian intervention” to the Russian “special military operation,” linking Belgrade to Belgorod – and everything in-between.''


Taking notice of, and quoting RussiaToday? That's pure Kremlin run propaganda channel. Shame on you.
September 26th, 2022 at 9:28:45 AM permalink
ams288
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By executive order, Vladimir Putin just granted Russian citizenship to Edward Snowden. Just to be clear: this means that Snowden can now be drafted into the Russian army.


Life comes at ya fast sometimes…
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September 26th, 2022 at 10:03:50 AM permalink
OnceDear
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Quote: ams288
Life comes at ya fast sometimes…

And in another sick turn, it looks like Russia might implement a FULL mobilisation draft of Ukrainan men in the soon to be annexed parts of Ukraine.

Totally sick! : Lining up Ukrainian men with Russki name badges (I doubt they'll bother issuing uniforms or quality, loaded weapons) in front of the Russian tanks pointed at Ukraine on Ukrainian territory. Fight your countrymen or we shoot you in the back. We'll shoot you in the back anyway.

No doubt a nice little propaganda stunt like lobbing a nuke on it and showing brave new Russians dying for their country.
September 30th, 2022 at 1:38:29 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: OnceDear
Taking notice of, and quoting RussiaToday? That's pure Kremlin run propaganda channel. Shame on you.

More pure Kremlin run propaganda
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wild-baseless-claims-biden-blew-185612325.html
Business Insider
How wild and baseless claims that Biden blew up the Nord Stream pipelines moved seamlessly between Tucker Carlson and the Kremlin
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September 30th, 2022 at 8:46:06 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: terapined
More pure Kremlin run propaganda
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wild-baseless-claims-biden-blew-185612325.html
Business Insider
How wild and baseless claims that Biden blew up the Nord Stream pipelines moved seamlessly between Tucker Carlson and the Kremlin
Who do you think blew up Nordstream one and two?
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
October 1st, 2022 at 6:37:08 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: petroglyph
Who do you think blew up Nordstream one and two?

I don't know
Just waiting to see if any evidence is uncovered
Couldn't have been Biden
He's too old to be going out on sabotage operations
What has Tyler Durden uncovered with his only source, the internet :-)
Maybe the Wash Post or NYT will uncover evidence, they have real sources
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October 1st, 2022 at 7:09:33 AM permalink
Tanko
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No way out.

'Ukraine forces enter Lyman, Kyiv says Russian troops surrounded'

'Russia had 5,000 to 5,500 troops at Lyman but the number of encircled troops could be lower because of casualties, Cherevatyi said.'
October 2nd, 2022 at 9:52:09 PM permalink
rxwine
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During an appearance on ABC’s “This Week,” General Petraeus told co-anchor Jonathan Karl that western powers have to take Russia’s nuclear weapons threats seriously, noting National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan’s recent remarks that US officials have warned the Moscow of “catastrophic consequences” if the Kremlin deploys nuclear weapons.

“And what would happen?” Karl asked.

“Well, again, I have deliberately not talked to Jake about this. I mean, just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a NATO, a collective effort, that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea,” Petraeus replied.

Karl noted radiation from a nuclear attack in Ukraine would also likely reach nearby NATO countries, effectively making it an attack on the alliance.
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