Should Trans People be allowed to use opposite sex bathrooms?

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January 19th, 2023 at 8:59:45 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I wonder if bathroom designers of yesteryear had figures for how much total space was saved by using urinals, there must have been a factor there ...

I prefer separate bathrooms for men and women because women pee all over the seats they insist on leaving down, once that gets started they all do it. Health experts tell them not to hover it seems

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/dont-hover-over-the-toilet-seat
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January 19th, 2023 at 9:01:59 AM permalink
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January 19th, 2023 at 9:30:18 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I wonder if bathroom designers of yesteryear had figures for how much total space was saved by using urinals, there must have been a factor there ...

I prefer separate bathrooms for men and women because women pee all over the seats they insist on leaving down, once that gets started they all do it. Health experts tell them not to hover it seems

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/dont-hover-over-the-toilet-seat


On another forum, I upset some women posters telling them that when I go into a public bathroom stall I always raise or lower the lid with my foot so as not to touch it at all. And flush the handle with my foot if itís not automatic. But there is definitely some men also urinating on the seat in menís bathrooms who donít bother to put up the seat.
January 19th, 2023 at 10:15:22 AM permalink
Mission146
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I have seen how urinals could be installed in such bathrooms, basically a screened off area like you say, but I would guess for unisex it's easier to just use all the space for as many stalls as possible as opposed to using up space for a screened urinal area.


I'm thinking in terms of already extant bathrooms with urinals.

Suppose you're a man with a daughter of a certain age range, or woman with a son, I would like to think you're not leaving them alone outside of a bathroom anyway, so we're already making a huge production over something (young girls being in the same bathroom with a biological male who is a stranger to them) that already happens a good deal of the time---just in the men's room.

If the concern is very young girls being allowed to go to the ladies' room, by themselves, and perhaps being potentially accosted by a biological male, then whether you are the mother or the father, I would question why the child was permitted to go to the bathroom alone in the first place.

I tend to think a lot of the right-wing folks who spew on and on about this either don't have kids, or if they do, I would respectfully question the level of protection those children are being afforded to begin with if they think that bathroom R%^%$ are going to become super common.

That said, I'd still sooner send a daughter into a bathroom by herself than I would send her to a church youth group trip by herself.
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January 19th, 2023 at 10:18:32 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: odiousgambit
I wonder if bathroom designers of yesteryear had figures for how much total space was saved by using urinals, there must have been a factor there ...

I prefer separate bathrooms for men and women because women pee all over the seats they insist on leaving down, once that gets started they all do it. Health experts tell them not to hover it seems

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/dont-hover-over-the-toilet-seat


Could have been, but my guess is more along the lines of water consumption and convenience. Lots of guys seem to barely be able to hit the target when they use urinals; could you imagine what toilet seats would look like, or floors of stalls, were there not any?
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January 19th, 2023 at 10:19:42 AM permalink
Mission146
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On another forum, I upset some women posters telling them that when I go into a public bathroom stall I always raise or lower the lid with my foot so as not to touch it at all. And flush the handle with my foot if itís not automatic. But there is definitely some men also urinating on the seat in menís bathrooms who donít bother to put up the seat.


Worse things have happened to the seats than that. I would suggest to them that pocket Lysol wipes are a thing if they are super concerned about it.
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January 19th, 2023 at 12:28:28 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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