The Threat of Theology: Religion Influencing Politics in America

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July 20th, 2022 at 6:04:10 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: rxwine
As to theological influence, I've not really examined the issue that closely. Though it's almost a given that it's a large influence which comes just from their numbers in the population.


Yes, but that is why it is crucial that leadership not speak about canidates (as they are not supposed to). This is routinely violated, and pretty much never enforced.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Amendment

That is why the Johnson Amendment is important to to protect.

It would nor suprise me, if Republicans get control, there will be a renewed repeal effort.
July 20th, 2022 at 6:08:25 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: kenarman
You should really look into what is going on in colleges now Gander. They used to be a place that encouraged free thinking. Now it is conform or get out.


If the college is a nonprofit they have to abide by the restrictions as well. And, I would have no issues with students reporting nonprofit colleges in violation.

Again, I have never once heard a professor (and I have taken many classes at a variety of colleges) endorse or speak negatively about a canidate. I have had some make comments about general policy beliefs (which is fine). On the other hand, I rarely go to Churches, and can think of examples that I have heard (and online there are endless examples).

But, again if you actually have an example of a violation, I have no issue with you reporting them (assuming it's a nonprofit college).
July 20th, 2022 at 12:04:45 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: Gandler
If the college is a nonprofit they have to abide by the restrictions as well. And, I would have no issues with students reporting nonprofit colleges in violation.

Again, I have never once heard a professor (and I have taken many classes at a variety of colleges) endorse or speak negatively about a canidate. I have had some make comments about general policy beliefs (which is fine). On the other hand, I rarely go to Churches, and can think of examples that I have heard (and online there are endless examples).

But, again if you actually have an example of a violation, I have no issue with you reporting them (assuming it's a nonprofit college).


My son’s college instructor (not sure what position, professor, adjunct professor, teaching assistant) started class the day after the Trump election win by saying “I know we are all very sad today”…

Made for an interesting moment…not all were sad…
July 20th, 2022 at 12:14:13 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: RonC
Made for an interesting moment…not all were sad…


Only the ones with bright futures were sad.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
July 20th, 2022 at 12:36:25 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: RonC
My son’s college instructor (not sure what position, professor, adjunct professor, teaching assistant) started class the day after the Trump election win by saying “I know we are all very sad today”…

Made for an interesting moment…not all were sad…

What I really like about Professor Devine is that he taught political science but did not let his students know how he leaned. He taught the class fairly providing information and letting students decide.how they should lean
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
July 20th, 2022 at 1:12:53 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: terapined
What I really like about Professor Devine is that he taught political science but did not let his students know how he leaned. He taught the class fairly providing information and letting students decide.how they should lean


That is the way it should be done.

College leanings prove nothing. As long as you don’t go to the Capitol or loot in the streets and end up with serious charges, you have a good shot at doing well. Many people change their leanings along the way as they learn about the world.
July 20th, 2022 at 2:20:56 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: RonC
That is the way it should be done.

College leanings prove nothing. As long as you don’t go to the Capitol or loot in the streets and end up with serious charges, you have a good shot at doing well. Many people change their leanings along the way as they learn about the world.

As you get older, you get wiser
Used to lean right
Now lean left
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
July 20th, 2022 at 2:27:03 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
As you get older, you get wiser
Used to lean right
Now lean left


As my father once told me: "If you aren't a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are still a socialist at 40 you have no brain."
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
July 20th, 2022 at 2:45:26 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
As my father once told me: "If you aren't a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are still a socialist at 40 you have no brain."

The brainless are those not intelligent enough to understand that different people have different views and instead make insulting statements
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
July 20th, 2022 at 3:04:56 PM permalink
Gandler
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The Johnson Amendment is another great example of how underrated Lydon Johnson is. Granted, he was a senator at the time, it shows his forethought. One of the greatest Presidents. He accomplished a lot in the Senate and during his brief time as President.
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