General Election 2024

Quote: link, emphasis mine, my comments added in brackets

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” ... the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. [clearly being able to request a mail in ballot just for convenience, or mailing out ballots to everyone, is even worse than absentee requests]

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot... “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed.

There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots
In a 2018 North Carolina congressional race ... Mark Harris edged out Democrat Dan McCready... [having] received 61% of mail-in votes, even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19% of those who had requested mail-in ballots. [no I don't like to see Republicans cheat either, I'm an independent]

In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case.

Quote: odiousgambit

I won't claim that MA's mail in system is corrupt. How would I know? Which is the point.

Gene's account shows the system there tries to keep dead people from voting. Good. Do they do everything possible? maybe, maybe not.

Quote: link, emphasis mine, my comments added in brackets

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” ... the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. [clearly being able to request a mail in ballot just for convenience, or mailing out ballots to everyone, is even worse than absentee requests]

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot... “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed.

There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots
In a 2018 North Carolina congressional race ... Mark Harris edged out Democrat Dan McCready... [having] received 61% of mail-in votes, even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19% of those who had requested mail-in ballots. [no I don't like to see Republicans cheat either, I'm an independent]

In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667

Quote: SOOPOO

Buffalo is being stressed by large numbers of migrants. Apparently NYC has sent many busses of migrants our way. Asking me to shut up because I point out how foolish most of your posts are is no reason to need any help. I almost never watch Fox News. Notice your post adds absolutely nothing to the conversation (as usual), while my previous post points out the facts of the situation. You are getting worse at posting anything of value. Why is that?

Quote: odiousgambit

I'm continuing with "being opposed to *fraud friendly* types of voting"

I'm glad MA is trying to avoid fraud, it would seem. Yet the type is fraud friendly just by being allowed. The tiger can't change it's stripes.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Done properly, like MA does, mail in voting isn't as fraud friendly as you believe. Got any proof otherwise?

Quote: ams288

Are the large numbers of migrants being bussed to Buffalo in the room with you right now?

Quote: GenoDRPh

That what the voices in your head tell you, or is it that's how you run your elections?

Quote: kenarman

The point isn't whether you or I have voices in our heads, as usual you miss the point and resort to insult. The point is you can't prove that there wasn't duress during your filling out of the ballot. This means the integrity of a mail in ballot is not as secure as an in person vote. Why do in person polling stations have booths that keep others from viewing your selection when you vote? These rules were developed over a century or two to correct problems that were happening.

You vote in your dorm room. How do I know that you aren't your roommate's b...h and do everything he tells you including who to vote for? There is no arguing that mail in voting is as secure as in person voting. You obviously don't care. Some of us want a voting system that is secure from being gamed.

Quote: kenarman

The point isn't whether you or I have voices in our heads, as usual you miss the point and resort to insult. The point is you can't prove that there wasn't duress during your filling out of the ballot. This means the integrity of a mail in ballot is not as secure as an in person vote. Why do in person polling stations have booths that keep others from viewing your selection when you vote? These rules were developed over a century or two to correct problems that were happening.

You vote in your dorm room. How do I know that you aren't your roommate's b...h and do everything he tells you including who to vote for? There is no arguing that mail in voting is as secure as in person voting. You obviously don't care. Some of us want a voting system that is secure from being gamed.