In the News II

April 3rd, 2024 at 7:08:20 AM permalink
rxwine
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Music industry trying to control the proliferation of ai.
https://musically.com/2024/04/02/more-than-200-artists-sign-stop-devaluing-music-open-letter-on-ai/

It's going to be tough for musicians and actors. Even without producing fakes of real actors, producing actors who don't even exist is getting better and better. In terms of months, not years.
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April 3rd, 2024 at 7:12:36 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
Music industry trying to control the proliferation of ai.
https://musically.com/2024/04/02/more-than-200-artists-sign-stop-devaluing-music-open-letter-on-ai/

It's going to be tough for musicians and actors. Even without producing fakes of real actors, producing actors who don't even exist is getting better and better. In terms of months, not years.


Just to play the devils advocate why should artists be any different than the rest of us who are losing their jobs to AI?
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April 3rd, 2024 at 7:22:41 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: kenarman
Just to play the devils advocate why should artists be any different than the rest of us who are losing their jobs to AI?


I think it's more reality than even playing devil's advocate. If you already made lots of money as an actor, you would be in good shape, as long as you're not one blowing all your money as fast as you can. The ones trying to work their way up, it will likely be a whole new level of difficulty. The percentage of really successful ones was already relatively small.
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April 3rd, 2024 at 6:49:41 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: kenarman
Just to play the devils advocate why should artists be any different than the rest of us who are losing their jobs to AI?


They shouldn't. It is ironic that the "creative" sector may lost more slots to AI (at least in the short term -next 10 years-) than any other sector. It is far easier for AI to write songs or generate images than it is for AI to weld two pieces of metal together. I do not see this as a bad thing, it will allow people to free up abilities to be spent elsewhere. Despite what a lot of people think the AI will probably take jobs in the exact inverse order than many predicted (Creatives will lose jobs first, then white color, then blue color -mostly because of physical requirements-.)

It is easier for AI to generate a bunch of random compositions until one is regarded as sounding good than carrying old papers from the 1800s and scanning them in by hand and turning into historical data, which is easier than an AI figuring out how to drive a truck and empty trach cans.

It kind of common sense, even if some will not admit it, AI will be hardest to replace jobs that require true mobility and physicality vs routing office tasks. Any job that is 100% on the computer can quickly be replaced by AI. Jobs requiring human movement and dexterity will be longer to replace.
April 4th, 2024 at 8:43:20 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: Gandler

It kind of common sense, even if some will not admit it, AI will be hardest to replace jobs that require true mobility and physicality vs routing office tasks. Any job that is 100% on the computer can quickly be replaced by AI. Jobs requiring human movement and dexterity will be longer to replace.


Not that I disagree with you, but there already are machines that can fill prescriptions (taking pills out of big bottles and putting them into little bottles). There already are machines that can lay bricks or cinder blocks for building foundations, and can do so faster than a team of humans and it won't be long before a machine can install a window or door into a new construction frame, or hang drywall or paint a finished room.
April 4th, 2024 at 9:35:30 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Not that I disagree with you, but there already are machines that can fill prescriptions (taking pills out of big bottles and putting them into little bottles). There already are machines that can lay bricks or cinder blocks for building foundations, and can do so faster than a team of humans and it won't be long before a machine can install a window or door into a new construction frame, or hang drywall or paint a finished room.


It may not be long relatively (all of human history,) but it will be longer than most data jobs. Automating anything that is fully on a computer is far easier than doing both that and designing a robot that can saftley perform all human functions in any condition.

Most current robots are in very select/controlled circumstances. Even the brick layers, really only work if it is a straight line and a flat surface, they can't think on their own and perform a bunch of designs (also the bricks have to basically be lined up for them.) Construction sites don't really have a ton of robots (and the ones that are like the brick layer are more of a supplement as people have to be with it and prep it.)

If you can work from home your job can probably be replaced with AI soon, is an easy way to look at it. If all you need is a computer and a phone, that is relativley easy to automate compared to having to hold a lot of specific tools and be able to have free movement.
April 4th, 2024 at 9:41:24 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Not that I disagree with you, but there already are machines that can fill prescriptions (taking pills out of big bottles and putting them into little bottles). There already are machines that can lay bricks or cinder blocks for building foundations, and can do so faster than a team of humans and it won't be long before a machine can install a window or door into a new construction frame, or hang drywall or paint a finished room.


It will be way long before that happens. Too many different challenges to overcome.

Why make a machine to lay cinder block when you can do a solid pour?
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April 4th, 2024 at 9:51:42 AM permalink
rxwine
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If US business doesn't use more and more ai to compete, we will eventually be buried by other countries with fewer qualms about using it.
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April 4th, 2024 at 11:04:43 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If US business doesn't use more and more ai to compete, we will eventually be buried by other countries with fewer qualms about using it.


AI is currently a very overused term. I’ve been hearing the robots will take over most of my life.
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April 4th, 2024 at 11:18:40 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote:
When a 7.4-magnitude earthquake rocked Taiwan on Wednesday, people inside the island’s tallest skyscraper, Taipei 101, were protected by a large yellow pendulum at the building’s center that helped absorb the shock.

Known as a “tuned mass damper,” the 730-ton steel sphere is suspended between several floors at the top of the building, where it can be viewed by the public. The observatory is a popular tourist attraction in the capital city.

The sphere moves back and forth during earthquakes or typhoons that regularly lash the island, absorbing the force of any “violent swinging,” according to the Taipei 101 website. The damper’s engineers say it can curtail the building’s movement by up to 40 percent, reducing the queasiness felt by its occupants.
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