Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

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Canada's population increased by over a million last year the bulk of it immigrants. The largest increase by number of people ever, but at 2.7% less than the 3.3% during the baby boom after the war. We don't have a hope in hell in building enough housing for everyone at that rate.

Understood. Should have phrased it “mass migration” rather than “at any scale.”

Quote: rquiredusername

There’s a perverse effect on property values in disaster prone areas driving up values due to more limited properties, therefore economically justifying continued rebuilding where from any other perspective it doesn’t reasonably make sense. The lowest tier of desirability doesn’t meet the math equation to rebuild, so they generally get bought out and then driven out by the subsequent further increas in values nearby. People only move as far away as they “have” to, it’s a reason why you don’t see mass migration out of disaster prone areas where people claim to believe in human climate impacts (hi california.)Hence the crazy rise in urban property values in the West and Florida. It would have to get really bad. No one providing services will be able to afford to live there but they are largely trying to robot, outsource, and zoning code out working class population away from them already anyway. It then pretty much always makes sense to build back in enclaves in a pretty ridiculous cycle.

Nobody is moving because of "climate." People do move because they do not like cold weather. But nobody is saying, "we gotta move before the seas flood us out!" Consider one of the biggest global warming believers, Obama, bought a place right on the shore.

If you do believe in what they claim will happen with global warming, the northeast and midwest are the places to be. Utica and Youngstown are awaiting you believers!

Quote: AZDuffman

Nobody is moving because of "climate." People do move because they do not like cold weather. But nobody is saying, "we gotta move before the seas flood us out!" Consider one of the biggest global warming believers, Obama, bought a place right on the shore.

If you do believe in what they claim will happen with global warming, the northeast and midwest are the places to be. Utica and Youngstown are awaiting you believers!

It's not proof at all that Obama or anyone else as well-off as him is going to avoid living many places because of climate change. He can not only afford insurance, he can afford to locate elsewhere at any time.

Those political scammers are all from the same mold.

Who in their right mind would buy a water-front property to intentionally lose money?

Not one single person on Earth.

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IRONY ALERT: Biden’s ‘Climate Czar’ John Kerry Owns $12 Million Beachfront Home

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In 2017, Kerry bought historic waterfront property at Seven Gates Farm in Chilmark. Using a private realty trust, Kerry paid $11.75 million for 18.5 acres and a house overlooking Vineyard Sound.

“The seven-bedroom house dates to 1924 and sits on one of 39 original sites that were created over time by the Seven Gates Farm Corporation on land originally collected by Nathaniel Shaler in the 19th century,” The Vineyard Gazette reported. “The Seven Gates Farm property is tucked into a rolling hillside with distant views of the Elizabeth islands, where Mr. Kerry, a member of the Forbes family on his mother’s side, has long ties.”

The ironic juxtaposition caught the attention of Charlie Kirk, a conservative commentator and founder of Turning Point USA. “If Joe Biden’s special ‘Climate Envoy,’ John Kerry, actually believed in Global Warming & rising sea levels, why would he live in a $12,000,000 waterfront mansion on the island of Martha’s Vineyard?”
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/irony-alert-bidens-climate-czar-john-kerry-owns-12-million-beachfront-home

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Quote: AZDuffman

Nobody is moving because of "climate." People do move because they do not like cold weather. But nobody is saying, "we gotta move before the seas flood us out!" Consider one of the biggest global warming believers, Obama, bought a place right on the shore.

If you do believe in what they claim will happen with global warming, the northeast and midwest are the places to be. Utica and Youngstown are awaiting you believers!

That’s exactly what I said that you quoted….only move if they “have to” and as far as they have to.

Only the people who don’t get a big enough check to justify a rebuild or to buy in the surrounding area where values are higher than their home move because of a weather event, they “have to”. There’s numerous examples of after a weather event some neighborhoods of equal or higher risk in an area being allowed to rebuild or insured again and others not. It’s just a math equation with home values picking winners and losers for insurers and FEMA, then the winners win again with a now further limited supply and increased buyers further increasing the value. Santa Rosa, California is a recent example of that after fires. Or Kinston, NC in Hurricane Floyd in the late ‘90’s. Or any number of Houston examples.

Reading is tough. Whether you want to classify the limited amount of population moving because of economics or climate after a weather event becomes a distinction without a difference.

Quote: rxwine

It's not proof at all that Obama or anyone else as well-off as him is going to avoid living many places because of climate change. He can not only afford insurance, he can afford to locate elsewhere at any time.

If he believed sea levels would be rising as he claimed he would never have bought there. Just one more example of what suckers the believers are.

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If he believed sea levels would be rising as he claimed he would never have bought there. Just one more example of what suckers the believers are.

Well, maybe a conservative would drown looking up at the sky wondering where water comes from would be in danger.

Quote: rxwine

Well, maybe a conservative would drown looking up at the sky wondering where water comes from would be in danger.

Why would a conservative wonder where water comes from?

Quote: AZDuffman

Why would a conservative wonder where water comes from?

I thought we all know it comes from a natural spring via Poland via Kroger and via the refrigerator. That is where I get my water,

Story off TV of Crawford lake. A lake in Canada that appears to be a record of the last thousand year in sediment. There's a record of plutonium in the 1950s layers from A bomb blasts. And of course, the record changes in climate occurring from the 1950s onwards.