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May 11th, 2022 at 2:05:36 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Gandler


More than a little overpriced. Some shady smoke rings going on for such a low revenue, limited product company to have such a high valuation.


The price of stocks today generally mirror what the market thinks the company will be worth in the future. Tesla investors think the company will be worth more than the other automakers combined in the future. I don't know if I believe it, but I do think they will be bigger than any of our other manufacturers in the future. I do believe Ford will be their biggest competitor as they are approaching the EV market better than the others.
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May 11th, 2022 at 2:14:11 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: DRich
The price of stocks today generally mirror what the market thinks the company will be worth in the future. Tesla investors think the company will be worth more than the other automakers combined in the future. I don't know if I believe it, but I do think they will be bigger than any of our other manufacturers in the future. I do believe Ford will be their biggest competitor as they are approaching the EV market better than the others.


That gets into Star Citizen territory, Tesla misses just about every deadline (often by many years), and continues to take money for Pre-orders. (And, they both share having a hyper loyal fanbase who does not like dissent). And, Elon Musk, like Chris Roberts is great at hype and leading people on.

But, based on the pure numbers, its insane that its not only the most valuable auto company, but more valuable than all combined. I think its mostly based on false promises and hype.
May 11th, 2022 at 2:15:39 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
The price of stocks today generally mirror what the market thinks the company will be worth in the future. Tesla investors think the company will be worth more than the other automakers combined in the future. I don't know if I believe it, but I do think they will be bigger than any of our other manufacturers in the future. I do believe Ford will be their biggest competitor as they are approaching the EV market better than the others.


Tesla fans are a sort of cult. You cannot talk reason with them. The valuation has never made any sense but never bet against a cult stock. In the case of Tesla we are talking about a company who just 2 years ago had its fans helping load cars for shipping.

Remember the weird Saturn "homecoming" events where owners came to the factory? This is many times more cultish.
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May 11th, 2022 at 2:17:38 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Tesla fans are a sort of cult. You cannot talk reason with them. The valuation has never made any sense but never bet against a cult stock. In the case of Tesla we are talking about a company who just 2 years ago had its fans helping load cars for shipping.

Remember the weird Saturn "homecoming" events where owners came to the factory? This is many times more cultish.


I 100% agree with that.
May 11th, 2022 at 7:07:52 PM permalink
rxwine
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Update (12 May 2022): The big day of the announcement is today! Make sure to check back to ScienceAlert's home page for a live blog of the press conference at roughly 08:40 am EDT, or 12:40 UTC.


Any guesses. World leaders take off their masks and reveal they are Lizards.
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May 12th, 2022 at 7:52:21 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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it's time for you to tell us what the hell you are talking about
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:00:22 AM permalink
rxwine
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it's time for you to tell us what the hell you are talking about


Me? It was a picture of a Black Hole at the middle of the Milky Way. I don't think the image is going to roil the public imagination, however. Interesting for the space nerds. But that's the way they chose to announce it.
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:03:14 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
Me? It was a picture of a Black Hole at the middle of the Milky Way. I don't think the image is going to roil the public imagination, however. Interesting for the space nerds. But that's the way they chose to announce it.


Every large galaxy has a black hole at its centre. Why would we think our galaxy is any different.
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:08:34 AM permalink
rxwine
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Every large galaxy has a black hole at its centre. Why would we think our galaxy is any different.


It's the pics, not the concept.
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May 12th, 2022 at 8:49:47 AM permalink
terapined
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USA TODAY: Ukraine updates: Finland backs NATO; Russia vows 'retaliatory' steps.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/12/ukraine-russia-invasion-live-updates/9740864002/
WTF
Putin caused this
Finland was fine outside of NATO until Putin attacked
This is on Russia/Putin because of its actions
But
I have no doubt Russian supporters Fox, Tucker and Rand Paul will blame Biden
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