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June 3rd, 2022 at 11:25:45 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: missedhervee
Pshaw.

Just project how different things would be in eastern Europe had Trump remained in power, continuing to worship and adore Putin.

Russia would have invaded and conquered Ukraine; Trump would not have intervened and without the USA pushing the issue NATO countries would have been checkmated and unable to aid Ukraine.

Today Ukraine, tomorrow the Baltic countries...and Moldova...and Poland...

No, I am willing to pay this price to consign Trump to oblivion and to muzzle the drunken Russian bear.


Your post just emphases what a poor grasp on reality some people have.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
June 3rd, 2022 at 12:26:18 PM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: missedhervee
Just project how different things would be in eastern Europe had Trump remained in power, continuing to worship and adore Putin.


Right. And you still think the dossier and the piss tape were real.

Putin had four years to invade Ukraine while Trump was President. He didn't have the cojones.

He invaded Ukraine only six months after he saw how Biden and his joke military leaders, Milley and Austin totally screwed up the Afghanistan withdrawal, leaving behind $7 billion in military equipment, 9,000 Americans and getting twenty-four of them killed. Then kiling two aid workers transporting jugs of water to their village, along with six children in a botched retaliation.

One catastrophic failure after the next with this idiot.
June 3rd, 2022 at 1:06:26 PM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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I take your points: I am not a Biden fan.

But at least he isn't naive enough to make a statement so stupid, so unforgiveable, as Trump did when Trump said he believed Putin over the USA's own intelligent services.

He is, was, and always will be Vlad's little puppet.
June 3rd, 2022 at 2:07:48 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
I take your points: I am not a Biden fan.

But at least he isn't naive enough to make a statement so stupid, so unforgiveable, as Trump did when Trump said he believed Putin over the USA's own intelligent services.

He is, was, and always will be Vlad's little puppet.


And you will always be a drone what with believing your government without question. Trump made a smart statement there.
The President is a fink.
June 3rd, 2022 at 2:48:12 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: kenarman
Your post just emphases what a poor grasp on reality some people have.

What is reality?
Maybe Trump is helping the Dems
Herchel Walker and Dr Oz :-)
Talk about wanting to give the Senate to the Dems
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
June 3rd, 2022 at 2:53:28 PM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: missedhervee
But at least he isn't naive enough to make a statement so stupid, so unforgiveable, as Trump did when Trump said he believed Putin over the USA's own intelligent services.


That was a dig at the proven lying dirtbags who were trying to destroy his presidency.

Then he sanctioned Russia 52 times over the next there years. If he trusted Putin more than the US Intel agencies, they must be pretty bad.

One month into his presidency, FBI Official Peter Strzok, who vowed trump would not become president, wrote in an internal memo ‘We have not seen evidence of any individuals affiliated with the Trump team in contact with Russian intelligence officers.” Yet, they spent the next two years trying to take down Trump, wasting $32 million of taxpayer money and forcing the Administration to spend ten thousand hours fighting the false accusations. Hours that could have been spent on productive issues.

Solely because Trump was an outsider. Not a member of the swamp.

They’re trying to stop Dr. Oz from becoming a Senate candidate in PA, for the same reason.

They appointed Meuller, a man clearly suffering from dementia, to lead the investigation, in order to give an appearance of legitimacy. He didn’t have a clue where he was during the hearings.

"Had I known how much he had changed, I would not have pursued his testimony with such vigor — in fact, I would not have pursued it at all," - Adam Schiff

Deputy FBI Director McCAbe lied to investigators about leaking information to the media. Trump fired him after an internal FBI investigation recommended his termination.

National Intelligence Director James Clapper repeatedly lied under oath to Congress and should have been prosecuted.
June 3rd, 2022 at 2:53:47 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: Tanko
...and now they're paying the terrible price.


You guys will never realize that there was no price high enough to not get rid of Donny.

#worthit
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
June 3rd, 2022 at 4:24:37 PM permalink
missedhervee
Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Quote: ams288
You guys will never realize that there was no price high enough to not get rid of Donny.


Heck, I could get behind a moderate, level-headed Republican if such a creature can be found anymore.

___________________

Maybe I spoke too soon?

I just read about Ben Sasse: I like what he said, and it looks like he'll run for the nomination.

https://news.yahoo.com/sasse-calls-out-weirdos-dividing-country-in-fiery-reagan-foundation-speech-184032984.html
June 3rd, 2022 at 4:49:30 PM permalink
JCW09
Member since: Aug 27, 2018
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The Democratic Price Tag for using Biden to defeat Trump:

The embarrassment that is the Democratic Party & down ticket damage (e.g. Youngkin & November 2022).
Florida turns bright red due to socialist overtures of the Progressive Left & the Cuban immigrant voting block.
Border crisis keeps Texas solidly red for the foreseeable future & leads AZ back to the GOP thanks to Independents (Bye Bye Kelley!)
The November 2022 Red Wave & Solid GOP control of both Houses of Congress. Dems lose 30 House and 2 Senatorial Seats.
Lame Duck Biden & weak Dem Party through 2024 gives a GOP President inauguration in Jan of 2025.
GOP replacements for Thomas & Alito ensuring a Textualist Conservative SCOTUS majority until 2040.

Politics is a long game & there is no one better at it than Cocaine Mitch.
It's a pretty steep price, glad the short sighted Leftists are willing to pay it.
Def. of Liar - "A Person Who Tells Lies" / "I lied. Deal with it" - ams288
June 3rd, 2022 at 5:03:12 PM permalink
missedhervee
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