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August 12th, 2016 at 2:43:23 PM permalink
Evenbob
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How many have smoked pot WITHOUT having first had a beer or a cig? Not me, and I'd bet not many. So why is it that pot saddled with the gateway moniker?


Different now. Kids that would never go
near a cig will smoke pot whenever they
can.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 12th, 2016 at 2:45:39 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: Evenbob
Different now. Kids that would never go
near a cig will smoke pot whenever they
can.


And we thank the gods for that. Seriously. My kid ever smokes pot, we're having a long talk. A cig, and he'll have a hefty dental bill and I'll be in jail =p I kid, but not by much.
Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it.
August 12th, 2016 at 2:52:35 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Face
And we thank the gods for that. Seriously. My kid ever smokes pot, we're having a long talk. A cig, and he'll have a hefty dental bill and I'll be in jail =p I kid, but not by much.


He'll steal a pack of yours and try it, all
kids do. How do you think you got started.
Used to steal my dads Pall Mall's all the
time, he was a 4 pack a day man. Filterless,
that's the way to go.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 12th, 2016 at 3:25:28 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Face
How many have smoked pot WITHOUT having first had a beer or a cig? Not me, and I'd bet not many. So why is it that pot saddled with the gateway moniker?


From me I stand by my thought, people who use more drugs are open to try more drugs, and pot smokers hang around each other. Becomes a game of "try this new stuff."

Most folk do not consider beer or smokes "drugs" no matter what the technical definition is.
The President is a fink.
August 13th, 2016 at 5:00:09 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: AZDuffman
Most folk do not consider beer or smokes "drugs" no matter what the technical definition is.
Or tea, coffee or chocolate... but they all are. Set your gateposts wherever you want to.
August 13th, 2016 at 5:01:52 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Oh, NO.....

There is now a PseudoBitCoin that gives revenue to a computer owner who allows his computer to be part of a BotNet for Distributed Denial of Service attacks.

Get paid to be a jerk.
August 14th, 2016 at 2:03:24 PM permalink
Evenbob
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These people have predicted every
presidential election correctly since 1988.
An amazing track record. They can
find no reason why they would be wrong
this time.

"Alan Abramowitz’s “Time for Change” model done for the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics “Crystal Ball” shows Trump winning 51.4 percent to 48.6 percent for Hillary Clinton."

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/

I also saw an unofficial pool
done by 20 graduate students. They
called 1000 voters in each of 50 states, 1/3
were Dems, 1/3 were Repub, 1/3 were
Ind. They got 70% Trump, 30% Hillary.
Just sayin.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 14th, 2016 at 2:15:25 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Evenbob
These people have predicted every
presidential election correctly since 1988.
An amazing track record. They can
find no reason why they would be wrong
this time.

"Alan Abramowitz’s “Time for Change” model done for the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics “Crystal Ball” shows Trump winning 51.4 percent to 48.6 percent for Hillary Clinton."

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/


EB, did you read the article?
A lot of the article explained why the model wont work this time.
This isn't your average repub candidate giving the same boring speech stop after stop. its Trump going off the rails.
The last sentence in the article
"Therefore, despite the prediction of the Time for Change model, Clinton should probably be considered a strong favorite to win the 2016 presidential election as suggested by the results of recent national and state polls"
lol

I am still giddy
giddy up
Oddsmakers had Trump moving up to 2 to 1 range during the Republican convention
His odds have now moved down into the 3 to 1 range
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
August 14th, 2016 at 3:27:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: terapined
EB, did you read the article?


The model says Trump will win,
the model has been right since
1988 when it began. Who cares
what their opinion of the model
is, it has nothing to do with
anything. Sabato is a left leaning
Lib, he tries to hide it. Last year
he said Trump had zero chance
of being nominated. In May of
the this year he said Hillary
would crush Trump with over
55% of the vote. Now, when he
has to apply his never wrong
model to the race, he squeals
like a little Lib piggy at the
results of his own model. Very
humorous.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 14th, 2016 at 5:38:28 PM permalink
Dalex64
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It looks like they're pointing out that the model no longer fits the current conditions

In other words, it doesn't model it.

If it isn't an accurate model of the current situation, then it doesn't matter what the model says.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan