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January 27th, 2019 at 4:30:17 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades
You do realize Obama was against gay marriage when he campaigned


We had two choices in 2008: Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin.

Which one was better for the gays?
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 27th, 2019 at 4:34:24 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: aceofspades
You do realize Obama was against gay marriage when he campaigned

??????
so what
We all move on and evolve our views as a country and individuals
What's important is that Obama supports gay marriage

Eric Clapton has said some very racist things in the past. Really disgusting
I'm still a huge fan
Eric has evolved
He's embarrassed by that and is not a racist
I still listen to his music
Got a problem with that :-)
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 27th, 2019 at 4:48:36 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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You are all missing the point about my bringing up Obama being anti-gay marriage
Yes, he changed his mind - fine fine fine

The point was to ask ams whether he vociferously took to the internet to express his derision for that stance - I could have used any cross-cutting issue
January 27th, 2019 at 5:06:32 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: aceofspades
The point was to ask ams whether he vociferously took to the internet to express his derision for that stance - I could have used any cross-cutting issue


No I didn’t.

I didn’t truly believe that Obama was against gay marriage. He was just saying what he needed to to get elected, and I was okay with that because he was a much better choice than McCain.

Kind of like how the MAGA crowd didn’t really believe Donald when he said he’d get Mexico to pay for the wall...
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 27th, 2019 at 5:44:55 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: ams288
No I didn’t.

I didn’t truly believe that Obama was against gay marriage. He was just saying what he needed to to get elected, and I was okay with that because he was a much better choice than McCain.

Kind of like how the MAGA crowd didn’t really believe Donald when he said he’d get Mexico to pay for the wall...


So, you are o.k. with politicians deliberately lying to the public to get elected
January 27th, 2019 at 6:00:20 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: aceofspades
You do realize Obama was against gay marriage when he campaigned


I wonder if he realized that Bush never had a "campaign" against gay marriage, he was just not for it. He never did anything much for or against it.

I wonder if he hates Clinton as much as he hates Bush, being as Clinton signed DOMA and DADT for that mater. Heck, he should hate Clinton far more than he hates Bush.
The President is a fink.
January 27th, 2019 at 6:01:01 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: aceofspades
So, you are o.k. with politicians deliberately lying to the public to get elected


Sure sounds like it! As long as they are liberal I guess!
The President is a fink.
January 27th, 2019 at 6:04:41 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: ams288
Kind of like how the MAGA crowd didn’t really believe Donald when he said he’d get Mexico to pay for the wall...


People just look at these tables and they believe that Mexico should pay for border security.

Remittances sent from the USA (over $3 billion)
Mexico $28,126,000,000
China $15,418,000,000
India $10,657,000,000
Philippines $10,536,000,000
Guatemala $6,756,000,000
Vietnam $6,668,000,000
Nigeria $5,668,000,000
El Salvador $4,194,000,000
Dominican Republic $4,088,000,000
Honduras $3,369,000,000
===
All countries money from USA $138,000,000,000

The eight countries of Central America send home $19.9 billion in remittances and they collectively have a population that is a tiny percentage of Mexico
January 27th, 2019 at 7:06:48 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: aceofspades
So, you are o.k. with politicians deliberately lying to the public to get elected


That’s like asking if I’m okay with water being wet.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 27th, 2019 at 7:21:43 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: ams288
That’s like asking if I’m okay with water being wet.


But yet, you chose not to call O out on his lies (like, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor)