Gun Control

Quote: AZDuffman

Replacement theory has credibility. All you need to do for s listen to the media and campus liberals to see it in action.

For white supremist definitely.

Quote: RonC

I get that; I am well trained. The addition of body armor makes center mass a possible problem.

Mostly I am just sad that a retired police office lost his life even though he shot the right spot. I wish he had taken that scumbag out.

I don't agree, in the military you are presumed to be shooting at armored targets and you still aim center mass. Anything else is just not reliable, especially when you are talking hundreds of meters. However, even close shots are center mass.

For close combat center mass is preferred because is more reliable than missing (and if you miss your target is a close environment you are quite likely hitting a friendly or hitting something that you should not). And, you hit somebody close range with a M4 or XM5 they are going down even with armor (even if it does not penetrate, they are going to be winded and down).

Now, a 9mm handgun (I don't know if that is what the Guard had, but I am assuming), against a high rated armor can be a different story. But, you can also shoot more than once (at least three times).

Its just in general better to train for center mass, because outlier circumstances aside, its the reliable way, both close and long.

Quote: missedhervee

This country was founded on immigration of new races to replace the old.

White supplanted red; maybe it's time for brown to supplant white?

But to argue that the gov't is encouraging "replacement" is beyond absurd.

Really? in 1964 immigration law changed to disfavor whites and favor other races. We have one party that openly calls for open borders. We have an education establishment that portrays whites as evil and racist.

Be blind to it if you like, it is happening and has been for 3 generations now.

Quote: Gandler

I don't agree, in the military you are presumed to be shooting at armored targets and you still aim center mass. Anything else is just not reliable, especially when you are talking hundreds of meters. However, even close shots are center mass.

For close combat center mass is preferred because is more reliable than missing (and if you miss your target is a close environment you are quite likely hitting a friendly or hitting something that you should not). And, you hit somebody close range with a M4 or XM5 they are going down even with armor (even if it does not penetrate, they are going to be winded and down).

Now, a 9mm handgun (I don't know if that is what the Guard had, but I am assuming), against a high rated armor can be a different story. But, you can also shoot more than once (at least three times).

Its just in general better to train for center mass, because outlier circumstances aside, its the reliable way, both close and long.

I didn’t say I disagreed with conventional training. Armor just makes the possibility of taking a target out with a 9mm pistol aimed at center mass a bit more problematic.

Quote: RonC

I didn’t say I disagreed with conventional training. Armor just makes the possibility of taking a target out with a 9mm pistol aimed at center mass a bit more problematic.

All you good guys should just wear armor out, since the pro-gun movement intent seems to make the right to own a gun easier than buying a pack of gum.

If you didn't catch that, I'm being sarcastic at the pro-gun movement motives.

Quote: rxwine

All you good guys should just wear armor out, since the pro-gun movement intent seems to make the right to own a gun easier than buying a pack of gum.

If you didn't catch that, I'm being sarcastic at the pro-gun movement motives.

I don't think they need to its already here. I don't know if I would say pack of gum, but for comparison, its easier (and quicker) to buy a gun than it is to register for an online casino, just a one page form with some basic details, and a bunch of boxes where you just check "no" to everything (except for one question). You can normally be out virtually instantly if nothing flags in your instant background check. You don't even need a license.

Now as of a few months ago you don't even need a license to carry a gun -including concealed- (not that that was even slightly hard to get, again if you can pass a basic background check and are literate enough to send the paperwork to the right courthouse......). The only reason it is worth getting a carry license now is because some other States require that you have one in your home state, and you want to carry while travelling.

Ironically, I foresee armor getting more restrictions (federally) before firearms do. As for States, the trend seems to be going against gun control and removing what few requirements there were.

Now, there are probably some States where there are stricter requirements with waiting periods and requiring a permit even for open carry, but they are probably dwindling.

Well, I know JC (when he stops ghosting us and makes another peep), has been dancing a jig every night since Trump deposited his picks in the bowl of Supreme justice.

Quote: rxwine

All you good guys should just wear armor out, since the pro-gun movement intent seems to make the right to own a gun easier than buying a pack of gum.

If you didn't catch that, I'm being sarcastic at the pro-gun movement motives.

Your pro-abortion views have you confused. Guns do not kill people. Abortions do but guns do not.

We just want it to be easy for people to protect themselves. If gun laws work then why is Chicago with its anti-gun laws not absent of gun violence?

Quote: Gandler

Ironically, I foresee armor getting more restrictions (federally) before firearms do. As for States, the trend seems to be going against gun control and removing what few requirements there were.

Now, there are probably some States where there are stricter requirements with waiting periods and requiring a permit even for open carry, but they are probably dwindling.

The smart states have just made it illegal to shoot people.

Quote: AZDuffman

The smart states have just made it illegal to shoot people.

Too many dumb cities and areas have Soros-backed prosecutors who have revolving doors at the jail.

Too many places have “Red Flag” provisions that are not properly followed.

We have too many laws that can help solve the problem, if enforced. Tweak them as needed but we don’t need a bevy of new laws…we need prosecutions and repeat criminals kept in jail pending trial.

There will be murders but we can cut them back with enforcement of existing laws.