Where does the soul reside?
June 11th, 2016 at 12:19:35 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
LOL EB "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
June 11th, 2016 at 12:33:36 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Alzheimer's disease involves a type of brain damage brought on by amyloid plaque buildup. This causes dementia. If the soul were separate from the brain, and could continue to function normally, dementia would not be a symptom of this particular type of damage.
The soul goes as the brain goes. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 11th, 2016 at 12:38:54 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25131 |
Just not true. Ever see someone who's had a major brain injury and now is a totally different person than he was? Does that mean his soul is changed? No, that's impossible. The soul has nothing to do with the brain or personality. Soul is the conscious energy that inhabits your body and when you die goes to be transformed into some other form. There is more and more evidence pointing to a universal consciousness that every living thing is part of. It's not localized, it has no personality, it's not a god. It just is. This goes back to the ancient Greeks, it's nothing new. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 11th, 2016 at 12:47:59 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
Unfortunately Nareed, Alzheimers is a disease I am very familiar with loosing both my father and my mother-in-law to the disease. I spent many many days with both of them as they progressed through their disease for almost 15 years. It was only when the body failed that they were truly gone. There was always a spark of their former selves in the mind. It might disappear for months at a time but then a few moments of comprehension of their surroundings and who they were with and then gone again. I believe that the memories and mind, and by your reasoning, the soul are still in there. The puzzle of life is scrambled for them most of the time but it is not gone. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
June 11th, 2016 at 12:54:48 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19777 |
Sorry EB, although I am not a particularly vocal critic of your reincarnation type theories, I do not consider the evidence as coming in yet to make any switch in my viewpoint. Although I'm happy to see actual research on anything like this. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 11th, 2016 at 1:04:56 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25131 |
Find research that concludes the soul is in the brain. There isn't any. "The idea that the soul exists within a specific part of the human brain is, of course, no longer the subject of widespread investigation in the secular field of neuroscience. “There is no hypothesis in that question, nothing that you can test.." In other words, they have no evidence that the soul is anywhere specific in the body. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 11th, 2016 at 1:05:12 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19777 |
My father had it as well and spent his last days in a Alzheimer's treatment center. The latest suggestion I've read is the plaque could be the normal result of the body fighting recurring infection. But it's either fighting a lot of infections, or it's overreacting. So, if you took goo that screws up a transmission device, yes, there could be underlying brain tissue function that might occasionally show through (for reasons unknown). But that said, research is still ongoing. (it has made me consider to brush and floss my teeth better, tooth infections have gone to the brain before -- and infections in your dental area can stay hidden quite awhile --- but that's just me worrying about being a recipient of the disease, no harm no foul at any rate) You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 11th, 2016 at 1:05:12 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6101 |
Yes. My friend Jason, who was on Gambling with an Edge a few times, and the first guest during my run, underwent major brain surgery three times. After the first two, I wouldn't say he was a totally different person, but he was more down to earth, more agreeable, and simply more peaceful. Unfortunately, he didn't make it much past the third surgery. The cancer was just too strong. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
June 11th, 2016 at 1:13:00 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19777 |
I don't conclude there is any soul at all. As yet, unproven. Furthermore your brain is you. If your brain is successfully moved somewhere else, there you go with it. I would easily bet 10k this is proved on a successful brain swap where the two people recover. If that ever happens. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 11th, 2016 at 1:18:44 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19777 | Furthermore, we have more and more body parts we can actually produce separately. No matter how many of these we grow to assemble a full person, people really believe the sum total ever produce a soul? No. Not without a brain. Even if we manage to produce all the other parts but the brain, we won't have a soul, personality.. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |