Where does the soul reside?

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June 11th, 2016 at 1:21:51 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
I don't conclude there is any soul at all. As yet, unproven. Furthermore your brain is you.


Your brain is where your bodies
personality resides. The thing
full of memories that helps you
muddle thru the day without
burning your hand on the stove
or wandering into traffic. The
thing that animates you, and
all living things, doesn't reside
in your brain.

FrG is always saying there
are 2 billion Xtions, are they all
wrong? Yes, most god religions
are wrong. But look at the 7 billion
on the planet. One thing almost
everybody agrees on, without even
expressing it, is we are more than
we seem. It goes back as far as we
can go in recorded history. It runs
thru every religion. The soul.
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June 11th, 2016 at 1:35:04 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
One thing almost
everybody agrees on, without even
expressing it, is we are more than
we seem.


I agree the whole can be more than the sum of the parts in function. All the parts of a M1 Abrams tank assembled properly is at a much higher function, than the parts scattered all over the desert. But that's an object. It's true, but does not produce a soul, nor is a soul required for that notion of wholeness being something more.
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June 11th, 2016 at 1:38:29 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
It's true, but does not produce a soul,


Which part of the tank is alive, I'm guessing
none of it is.
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June 11th, 2016 at 2:12:20 PM permalink
pew
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Evenbob is not an atheist. He isn't an xtian but he's definitely a believer.
June 11th, 2016 at 2:26:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: pew
Evenbob is not an atheist.


There's no evidence that a god exists.
If there is, show it to me. Hindu's and
Buddhists don't believe in a god, yet
they believe in reincarnation. What does
the soul have to do with a god. Explain
that.
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June 11th, 2016 at 2:43:10 PM permalink
pew
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There is no evidence that a soul exists. There is no evidence that a god exists. Atheists are materialists in that they believe that only matter and energy actually exist, therefore the scientific method based on materialism is the barometer of knowledge about our universe. You can't be an atheist/materialist and also say that there is an immaterial/ supernatural anything. Science wont allow it and science is all the atheist has.
June 11th, 2016 at 3:00:09 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: pew
There is no evidence that a soul exists. There is no evidence that a god exists. Atheists are materialists in that they believe that only matter and energy actually exist


Here is the definition of atheist
from the first 9 dictionaries that
Google showed:

a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
lack of belief in gods
A person who lacks belief in a god or gods.
a person who believes that God does not exist
someone who believes that God does not exist
A person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods:
not believing in any gods.
An atheist believes there is no such thing as god
someone who does not believe that God exists

I could list 30 more of the same. None
of them state that to be an atheist you must
also believe that only energy and
matter exist, that's just ridiculous. I also
believe ghosts are real, souls trapped
between here and there. Science is
all some atheists have, the narrow minded
ones. What does a god have to do with the
soul. Man invented god as the creator of
the soul, the controller of the soul. This
god is pure imagination. Your definition
of an atheist might speak to you, but it
hardly covers all atheists.

There is such a thing as spiritual atheism,
look it up. "Atheism is only a single position
on a single question, not an all-encompassing
world view."
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June 11th, 2016 at 3:48:22 PM permalink
rxwine
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From the commencement address at the California Institute of Technology, on Friday, June 10th.


Quote:
If this place has done its job—and I suspect it has—you’re all scientists now. Sorry, English and history graduates, even you are, too. Science is not a major or a career. It is a commitment to a systematic way of thinking, an allegiance to a way of building knowledge and explaining the universe through testing and factual observation. The thing is, that isn’t a normal way of thinking. It is unnatural and counterintuitive. It has to be learned. Scientific explanation stands in contrast to the wisdom of divinity and experience and common sense. Common sense once told us that the sun moves across the sky and that being out in the cold produced colds. But a scientific mind recognized that these intuitions were only hypotheses. They had to be tested.


The above is pretty much what I follow.

EB, if you believe in ghosts you're outside the realm of accepted science. Also souls, and lifeforces.

I am not an avowed "no something never could be'" but I remain skeptical of even things I'd like to believe, like alien life. I don't cross the line no matter how much I favor something.
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June 11th, 2016 at 3:48:24 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: FrGamble
The soul of grandma is still there but can no longer be expressed like it used to be able to when the body and brain were undamaged.


Why is it all you seem to require to grant unquestioning belief is zero evidence?
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June 11th, 2016 at 4:09:56 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine

EB, if you believe in ghosts you're outside the realm of accepted science.
.


What's your point. You do realize that
atheism predates science by thousands
of years. What does one have to do
with the other. There is no evidence
of god in science or outside of science.
I like the thought of ghosts. The difference
is, I'm not going to start a ghost religion
and force others to believe as I do. I'm not
going to argue with them if they don't
like the ghost idea, why would I care.

For atheists, science only backs up what
we believe, but we aren't totally dependent
on it. At all.
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