The Coronavirus thread

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I might start a new thread to continue. The title will reflect the irony that the hateful rhetoric is increasing more as the gap is closing, if it ever closed completely I guess it will mean that race war that has been predicted by so many. Good thing it's a long process?

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: JimRockford

1. The paper is a political opinion piece disguised as a research paper.

2. I don't think it says what you think it does. Here is an excerpt from the Implication and Conclusions section"

So you are saying it is the same thing as every global warming paper?

What it is saying is what I have been saying. Some of us prefer to think for ourselves instead of just "listening to the scientists."

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Quote: AZDuffman

MIT Study Finds That Anti-Maskers Are Anything But “Unscientific”

Could say the same thing on global warming.

1. The paper is a political opinion piece disguised as a research paper.

2. I don't think it says what you think it does. Here is an excerpt from the Implications and Conclusions section"

Quote:

Calls for media literacy—especially as an ethics smokescreen to avoid talking about larger structural problems like white supremacy are problematic when these approaches are deficit-focused and trained primarily on individual responsibility. Powerful research and media organizations paid for by the tobacco or fossil fuel industries [79,86] have historically capitalized on the skeptical impulse that the “science simply isn’t settled,” prompting people to simply “think for themselves” to horrifying ends. The attempted coup on January 6, 2021 has similarly illustrated that well-calibrated, well-funded systems of coordinated disinformation can be particularly dangerous when they are designed to appeal to skeptical people.

Quote: rxwine

Duffman “thinks for himself” which qualifies him for nothing.

Quote: AZDuffman

How about all those scientists that said we would be in an ice age by the 80s! Then said we had 20 years to save ourselves from global warming back in 1995! How did that work out for ya?

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An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales.

Quote: AZDuffman

Still puts me ahead of the "DUH, the scientists said it so it must be what I should do! FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!" crowd.[/


How about all those scientists that said we would be in an ice age by the 80s! Then said we had 20 years to save ourselves from global warming back in 1995! How did that work out for ya?

Quote: rxwine

Like I've said before, science is not always right, but it is going to be more right, more often, than whatever the hell you're doing. Follow the scientific consensus and you're following the science. They're making a well-informed opinion, whereas you... who knows.

Science is self-correcting by nature --- and you? You're about as dogmatic as they come.

Quote: rxwine

Quote: AZDuffman

Still puts me ahead of the "DUH, the scientists said it so it must be what I should do! FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!" crowd.[/


How about all those scientists that said we would be in an ice age by the 80s! Then said we had 20 years to save ourselves from global warming back in 1995! How did that work out for ya?

Like I've said before, science is not always right, but it is going to be more right, more often, than whatever the hell you're doing. Follow the scientific consensus and you're following the science. They're making a well-informed opinion, whereas you... who knows.

Science is self-correcting by nature --- and you? You're about as dogmatic as they come.

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: rxwine

Quote: AZDuffman

Still puts me ahead of the "DUH, the scientists said it so it must be what I should do! FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!" crowd.[/


How about all those scientists that said we would be in an ice age by the 80s! Then said we had 20 years to save ourselves from global warming back in 1995! How did that work out for ya?

Like I've said before, science is not always right, but it is going to be more right, more often, than whatever the hell you're doing. Follow the scientific consensus and you're following the science. They're making a well-informed opinion, whereas you... who knows.

Science is self-correcting by nature --- and you? You're about as dogmatic as they come.

Well, I will keep thinking for myself and you can keep obeying and doing as you are told. We will both be happy.

Quote: rxwine

Yeah, well, I'll save my shouts of give me liberty or give me death over something less trivial than having to wear a mask in a store. It just makes an embarrassing story for the grandkids. Your grandad had to walk uphill in a blizzard to go to school. You can tell them all the suffering you had to do wearing a cloth mask.