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December 10th, 2021 at 12:45:41 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: OnceDear
Quote: JCW09
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These guys Looters
They are all over the news here in the US.
It will come to the UK, just like BLM riots did last summer.
Sloane Street will get hit someday soon.
LOL. We live in different worlds.
I don't live on Sloane street. Typical crimewave where I live is when someone lets her dog crap on the sidewalk and doesn't pick it ALL up. BLM riots came here? I must have been in my bunker. Never heard a thing. I recall there was a shouty lady panic buying toilet rolls once in 2020. $;o)

You are kidding about not hearing about BLM riots in London, right?
BLM Riots London
Seriously OD, are you really this naive about what happens in your own country?
ROFLMAO..
You call those riots? Looks like a typical Friday night high spirits in any Metropolis. Where'.s the guns, Where's the burned out shops, Where's the water cannons.

So you're promoting the "mostly peaceful protests" route like CNN?
Got it.
In the UK more than mostly peaceful. Definitely.

Certainly not looting nor anything for me to fear. Had I been in London, I may have joined them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53120735

The US is mostly peaceful and very safe
I've been traveling all over the country unarmed and having the time of my life
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
December 10th, 2021 at 1:22:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Tanko
Black, Hispanic, Native American and Alaska Native people in the U.S. have higher obesity rates than white adults and Asian Americans; they have also been disproportionately affected by the pandemic, with death rates roughly double those of white Americans". -NY Times


So very racist of the New York Times to mention this. We are all woke now and I'm sure they are wrong.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 10th, 2021 at 3:30:19 PM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: JCW09
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Certainly not looting nor anything for me to fear. Had I been in London, I may have joined them.

I didn't realize you were a Marxist supporter. Good to know.
Neither did I. Indeed having just read wikipedia article on Karl Marx, I'm none the wiser as to what it means to be a Marxist. His philosophy went over my head with a whoosh.
December 10th, 2021 at 3:50:30 PM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: terapined
Quote: OnceDear
Quote: JCW09

So you're promoting the "mostly peaceful protests" route like CNN?
Got it.
In the UK more than mostly peaceful. Definitely.

Certainly not looting nor anything for me to fear. Had I been in London, I may have joined them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53120735

The US is mostly peaceful and very safe
I've been traveling all over the country unarmed and having the time of my life
terapined, I believe you. In fact, I'd suggest that most Western nations are mostly peaceful and safe, even Russia and most Eastern European nations are safe, not to mention Asian nations, China, Japan, and Australia etc etc. There are no doubt some neighbourhoods in every nation which are dangerous at certain times and in the big metropolitan areas, there will be occasional hotspots.

But Riots make the news. Looting. burning, violent crime might descend on a city and get quite messy, but after a very short time, peaceful equilibrium returns.

I don't know why JCW09 alludes to fear of crime and violence on the streets. I don't fear it and he doesn't seem to. Yes it exists, but on the periphery of our existence. Easily avoided unless one is confined to a rough neighbourhood.


And as to protests, whether it's Black lives matter, or protests about any other issue, if it's peaceful, accept it. Embrace it and learn from it. Riots.... Well that's a separate thing to be dealt with separately.
December 11th, 2021 at 9:53:42 AM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status

Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 17 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds.

Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds.
• 11 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
December 11th, 2021 at 10:02:31 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: Tanko
COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status

Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 17 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds.

Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds.
• 11 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
Yeah, but that's just numerical evidence: Proves nothing.... to [Expletive Pejorative redacted]
December 11th, 2021 at 10:15:05 AM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: OnceDear
Quote: Tanko
COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status

Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 17 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds.

Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds.
• 11 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
Yeah, but that's just numerical evidence: Proves nothing.... to [Expletive Pejorative redacted]


To quote Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kind of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics"
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 11th, 2021 at 10:30:24 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Quote: Tanko
COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status

Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 17 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds.

Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds.
• 11 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.


Yet the recovery rate is still 98% or 99%, a statistic which everybody avoids like the plague. I now know of scores of people in my wife's family of all ages all the way up in 93 who got covid and every single one of them recovered except my sister-in-law who now it turns out had pre-existing conditions up the wazoo. Big family secret, she had been dying of lupus for years and didn't tell anybody. She had almost no immune system left to fight anything. So she died of covid and she would have died anyway in the next couple of years. So keep posting all your scary statistics and keep leaving out the important ones.

Just this week my son-in-law in New York state who teachers grade school got covid. He's the guy I talked about years ago who got a kidney transplant because he had total renal failure at 40. Because of the transplant he takes drugs to tamp down his immune system so it doesn't reject the kidney. He was horribly sick this week but guess what? Even HE is going to survive with almost no intact immune system. You know who mostly dies from covid? Morbidly obese minorities who have diabetes, high blood pressure, and God knows what else wrong with them. We don't hear about them. That would be politically incorrect.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 11th, 2021 at 12:00:30 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Was supposed to go in to the hospital yesterday for a quick routine medical procedure. (To have my throat stretched, again) Shortly before I was do to be operated on, there was an emergency so the surgeon was moved to that patient while I was already IV'd and in a gurney with gown and all that, waiting for my procedure. So what usually takes about an hour to get in an out, took over 4 hours. My wife waited inside with me.

Our little private hospital was supposed to basically close last week because half of the staff there hasn't been immunized. But whatever orders came down from the top, left this facility open, but crowded. I don't know where these nurses came from, only one of them spoke without a pretty thick accent, so they are visiting nurses. This hospital also has continually kept a wing full of Covid patients, I'm hoping neither of us picked up the virus while stuck in the building for so long?

Time will tell. Both my wife and myself have compromised immunity and pre-existing conditions, and we aged. Neither of us is fat, or has high blood pressure. We'll see if we dodged a bullet or not.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
December 11th, 2021 at 2:33:32 PM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Posts: 1788
Quote: petroglyph
This hospital also has continually kept a wing full of Covid patients, I'm hoping neither of us picked up the virus while stuck in the building for so long?

Time will tell. Both my wife and myself have compromised immunity and pre-existing conditions, and we aged. Neither of us is fat, or has high blood pressure. We'll see if we dodged a bullet or not.
Good luck petroglyph. Good to hear that at least your treatment went ahead. Many are suffering or dying of 'ordinary' conditions because of deferred treatment.
Excess deaths are Excess deaths. That's the stat that doesn't lie. Some 400,000 so far this year in the USA. And that's before we consider time spent suffering covid and long covid.... and suffering untreated other conditions.

So SO many pre-existing conditions can affect us: Conditions that are normally manageable.It's not just the obese, or old.