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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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The President of Ecuador. Praises the attack. The President of Argentina. Lauds our actions. The Nobel PEACE PRIZE winner. 100% in favor. That’s a quick look. It’s not clear yet if this will end up being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
So 2 are country leaders that have been brown nosing Trump for the last year for trade deals and to grow their influence? And, 1 is the political enemy of Maduro in Venezuela who has been trying to get him out so they can run for President? (This is not a random Nobel Prize winner to cite.). Can you cite a Nobel Peace Prize winner outside of a local Venezuelian opposition leader who supports the attack? I am not sure these three citations are truly unbiased individuals that are empirically looking at the long term effects for the region...
TDS. ‘Brown nosing Trump? If you really meant trying to work with the hemisphere’s (and world’s) economic and military leader for the betterment of their country, then yeah, I agree with you. And right now there is only one most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. Heck, she won it Specifically FOR her opposition of Maduro. She won it over the guy who ended the Israeli/Hamas war. You want her to be unbiased? You want the Presidents of Ecuador and Argentina to be unbiased? Sorry, but they are supposed to biased in favor of the people of South America. Bottom line is you can find a laundry list of people who wanted Maduro out. And a list of zero who wanted Maduro to continue his dictatorial reign. But there was only one person with the balls (or recklessness?) to actually do something about it By the way, the country has been officially renamed TRUMPZUELA.
TDS because I don't support invading a country to charge somebody with drug distribution? Two things can be true, IE 1. Maduro is a bad guy. 2. We should not invade a country to arrest a bad guy on what I would consider modest charges. -------- Hussein was far worse than Mudero, and you opposed the Iraq War. Kim Jong Un is worse than both, and you don't support a full scale invasion of North Korea. Putin is worse and you don't support an invasion of Russia. There are at least 30 other leaders that are significantly worse than Maduro (like many times worse,) that I am sure you have no interest in removing because it would be complicated and the benefit to the U.S. would be nothing. Removing Maduro was not about ethics or philosophy, it was for a more economical reason. |
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| sonotawhale Member since: Nov 5, 2024
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Posts: 58 | Quote: Evenbob Spoken like the weak puke Libtard you are, you walking piece of dog shit. You make me sick.
Guys that fuck cats make me sick. |
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| Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 2470 | Quote: rxwine Maduro's vice President is defying Trump.
From 6,200 miles away Venezuela vice president Rodriguez in Russia, four sources say |
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| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5726 | Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: terapined1
The President of Ecuador. Praises the attack. The President of Argentina. Lauds our actions. The Nobel PEACE PRIZE winner. 100% in favor. That’s a quick look. It’s not clear yet if this will end up being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
So 2 are country leaders that have been brown nosing Trump for the last year for trade deals and to grow their influence? And, 1 is the political enemy of Maduro in Venezuela who has been trying to get him out so they can run for President? (This is not a random Nobel Prize winner to cite.). Can you cite a Nobel Peace Prize winner outside of a local Venezuelian opposition leader who supports the attack? I am not sure these three citations are truly unbiased individuals that are empirically looking at the long term effects for the region...
TDS. ‘Brown nosing Trump? If you really meant trying to work with the hemisphere’s (and world’s) economic and military leader for the betterment of their country, then yeah, I agree with you. And right now there is only one most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. Heck, she won it Specifically FOR her opposition of Maduro. She won it over the guy who ended the Israeli/Hamas war. You want her to be unbiased? You want the Presidents of Ecuador and Argentina to be unbiased? Sorry, but they are supposed to biased in favor of the people of South America. Bottom line is you can find a laundry list of people who wanted Maduro out. And a list of zero who wanted Maduro to continue his dictatorial reign. But there was only one person with the balls (or recklessness?) to actually do something about it By the way, the country has been officially renamed TRUMPZUELA.
TDS because I don't support invading a country to charge somebody with drug distribution? Two things can be true, IE 1. Maduro is a bad guy. 2. We should not invade a country to arrest a bad guy on what I would consider modest charges. -------- Hussein was far worse than Mudero, and you opposed the Iraq War. Kim Jong Un is worse than both, and you don't support a full scale invasion of North Korea. Putin is worse and you don't support an invasion of Russia. There are at least 30 other leaders that are significantly worse than Maduro (like many times worse,) that I am sure you have no interest in removing because it would be complicated and the benefit to the U.S. would be nothing. Removing Maduro was not about ethics or philosophy, it was for a more economical reason.
Were you for or against invading a foreign country to assassinate OBL? In general, I am against most foreign conflicts that result in American troops deaths. Of course there will be exceptions, like if we knew of an imminent attack on US citizens home or abroad. And as always, I am practical about who I want to attack. Damn straight I don’t want to go after China or Russia or North Korea because that would result in lots of American deaths. Seems like Venezuela is not planning on mounting any military response. Do you think Venezuela will now have a leader elected by the people of Venezuela or not? If so, will you admit that Trump’s actions were a success? Name the 30 leaders worse than Maduro, by the way… |
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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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The President of Ecuador. Praises the attack. The President of Argentina. Lauds our actions. The Nobel PEACE PRIZE winner. 100% in favor. That’s a quick look. It’s not clear yet if this will end up being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
So 2 are country leaders that have been brown nosing Trump for the last year for trade deals and to grow their influence? And, 1 is the political enemy of Maduro in Venezuela who has been trying to get him out so they can run for President? (This is not a random Nobel Prize winner to cite.). Can you cite a Nobel Peace Prize winner outside of a local Venezuelian opposition leader who supports the attack? I am not sure these three citations are truly unbiased individuals that are empirically looking at the long term effects for the region...
TDS. ‘Brown nosing Trump? If you really meant trying to work with the hemisphere’s (and world’s) economic and military leader for the betterment of their country, then yeah, I agree with you. And right now there is only one most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. Heck, she won it Specifically FOR her opposition of Maduro. She won it over the guy who ended the Israeli/Hamas war. You want her to be unbiased? You want the Presidents of Ecuador and Argentina to be unbiased? Sorry, but they are supposed to biased in favor of the people of South America. Bottom line is you can find a laundry list of people who wanted Maduro out. And a list of zero who wanted Maduro to continue his dictatorial reign. But there was only one person with the balls (or recklessness?) to actually do something about it By the way, the country has been officially renamed TRUMPZUELA.
TDS because I don't support invading a country to charge somebody with drug distribution? Two things can be true, IE 1. Maduro is a bad guy. 2. We should not invade a country to arrest a bad guy on what I would consider modest charges. -------- Hussein was far worse than Mudero, and you opposed the Iraq War. Kim Jong Un is worse than both, and you don't support a full scale invasion of North Korea. Putin is worse and you don't support an invasion of Russia. There are at least 30 other leaders that are significantly worse than Maduro (like many times worse,) that I am sure you have no interest in removing because it would be complicated and the benefit to the U.S. would be nothing. Removing Maduro was not about ethics or philosophy, it was for a more economical reason.
Were you for or against invading a foreign country to assassinate OBL? In general, I am against most foreign conflicts that result in American troops deaths. Of course there will be exceptions, like if we knew of an imminent attack on US citizens home or abroad. And as always, I am practical about who I want to attack. Damn straight I don’t want to go after China or Russia or North Korea because that would result in lots of American deaths. Seems like Venezuela is not planning on mounting any military response. Do you think Venezuela will now have a leader elected by the people of Venezuela or not? If so, will you admit that Trump’s actions were a success? Name the 30 leaders worse than Maduro, by the way…
I have no idea who OBL is, and google is turning up nothing, so no clue if I should be for or against it. As for 30 leaders: 1.Vladimir Putin 2. Xi Jinping 3. Kim Jong Un 4. Ali Khamenei 5. Mohammed bin Salman 6. Abiy Ahmed 7. Bashar al-Assad 8. Isaias Afwerki 9. Paul Kagame 10. Abdel Fattah al-Burhan 11. Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo 12. Ibrahim Traoré 12. Assimi Goïta 13. Félix Tshisekedi 14. Min Aung Hlaing 15. Shehbaz Sharif 16. Hibatullah Akhundzada 17. Daniel Ortega 18. Viktor Orbán 19. Nayib Bukele 20. Aleksandr Lukashenko 21. Robert Fico 22. Jimmy Chérizier 23. Williom Ruto 24. Julius Maada Bio 25. Prabowo Subianto 26. Faustin-Archange Touadéra 27. Noureddine Adam 28. Charles Taylor 29. Benjamin Netanyahu 30. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo I am not going to break down each one, and this is not in any particular order (just how they popped into my head,) so in no way saying this list is an order of who is morally superior to each other, but all are worse than Maduro. ---------- I think Venezuela will have a leader elected by Venezuela one day, I think Trump will run it as a U.S. proxy (or try to) for the foreseeable future. Trump's action as far as we know was only to arrest the President, so his actions were already a success based on the binary of the choice, so sure he succeeded in his goal. If his goal was good or corrupt is another matter.... Even if Venezuela elects their Bernie Sanders as President, I do not think what he did was right. A good outcome can result from a bad action. |
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| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5726 | Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: terapined1
The President of Ecuador. Praises the attack. The President of Argentina. Lauds our actions. The Nobel PEACE PRIZE winner. 100% in favor. That’s a quick look. It’s not clear yet if this will end up being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
So 2 are country leaders that have been brown nosing Trump for the last year for trade deals and to grow their influence? And, 1 is the political enemy of Maduro in Venezuela who has been trying to get him out so they can run for President? (This is not a random Nobel Prize winner to cite.). Can you cite a Nobel Peace Prize winner outside of a local Venezuelian opposition leader who supports the attack? I am not sure these three citations are truly unbiased individuals that are empirically looking at the long term effects for the region...
TDS. ‘Brown nosing Trump? If you really meant trying to work with the hemisphere’s (and world’s) economic and military leader for the betterment of their country, then yeah, I agree with you. And right now there is only one most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. Heck, she won it Specifically FOR her opposition of Maduro. She won it over the guy who ended the Israeli/Hamas war. You want her to be unbiased? You want the Presidents of Ecuador and Argentina to be unbiased? Sorry, but they are supposed to biased in favor of the people of South America. Bottom line is you can find a laundry list of people who wanted Maduro out. And a list of zero who wanted Maduro to continue his dictatorial reign. But there was only one person with the balls (or recklessness?) to actually do something about it By the way, the country has been officially renamed TRUMPZUELA.
TDS because I don't support invading a country to charge somebody with drug distribution? Two things can be true, IE 1. Maduro is a bad guy. 2. We should not invade a country to arrest a bad guy on what I would consider modest charges. -------- Hussein was far worse than Mudero, and you opposed the Iraq War. Kim Jong Un is worse than both, and you don't support a full scale invasion of North Korea. Putin is worse and you don't support an invasion of Russia. There are at least 30 other leaders that are significantly worse than Maduro (like many times worse,) that I am sure you have no interest in removing because it would be complicated and the benefit to the U.S. would be nothing. Removing Maduro was not about ethics or philosophy, it was for a more economical reason.
Were you for or against invading a foreign country to assassinate OBL? In general, I am against most foreign conflicts that result in American troops deaths. Of course there will be exceptions, like if we knew of an imminent attack on US citizens home or abroad. And as always, I am practical about who I want to attack. Damn straight I don’t want to go after China or Russia or North Korea because that would result in lots of American deaths. Seems like Venezuela is not planning on mounting any military response. Do you think Venezuela will now have a leader elected by the people of Venezuela or not? If so, will you admit that Trump’s actions were a success? Name the 30 leaders worse than Maduro, by the way…
I have no idea who OBL is, and google is turning up nothing, so no clue if I should be for or against it. As for 30 leaders: 1.Vladimir Putin 2. Xi Jinping 3. Kim Jong Un 4. Ali Khamenei 5. Mohammed bin Salman 6. Abiy Ahmed 7. Bashar al-Assad 8. Isaias Afwerki 9. Paul Kagame 10. Abdel Fattah al-Burhan 11. Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo 12. Ibrahim Traoré 12. Assimi Goïta 13. Félix Tshisekedi 14. Min Aung Hlaing 15. Shehbaz Sharif 16. Hibatullah Akhundzada 17. Daniel Ortega 18. Viktor Orbán 19. Nayib Bukele 20. Aleksandr Lukashenko 21. Robert Fico 22. Jimmy Chérizier 23. Williom Ruto 24. Julius Maada Bio 25. Prabowo Subianto 26. Faustin-Archange Touadéra 27. Noureddine Adam 28. Charles Taylor 29. Benjamin Netanyahu 30. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo I am not going to break down each one, and this is not in any particular order (just how they popped into my head,) so in no way saying this list is an order of who is morally superior to each other, but all are worse than Maduro. ---------- I think Venezuela will have a leader elected by Venezuela one day, I think Trump will run it as a U.S. proxy (or try to) for the foreseeable future. Trump's action as far as we know was only to arrest the President, so his actions were already a success based on the binary of the choice, so sure he succeeded in his goal. If his goal was good or corrupt is another matter.... Even if Venezuela elects their Bernie Sanders as President, I do not think what he did was right. A good outcome can result from a bad action.
I haven’t heard of a bunch of them. I wikipedia’d Fico. I can’t find how on any planet you can consider him worse than Maduro. And same for Netanyahu. But I would expect you to hate a strong leader of Jews who stands up to terrorists. I am impressed though with your knowledge of world affairs if you came up with that extensive a list without Google/AI help. Think about the sad state of affairs in those many countries…. and how good we have it here, where we have a leader who we actually elected. |
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| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 5248 | Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: Gandler Quote: SOOPOO Quote: terapined1
The President of Ecuador. Praises the attack. The President of Argentina. Lauds our actions. The Nobel PEACE PRIZE winner. 100% in favor. That’s a quick look. It’s not clear yet if this will end up being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
So 2 are country leaders that have been brown nosing Trump for the last year for trade deals and to grow their influence? And, 1 is the political enemy of Maduro in Venezuela who has been trying to get him out so they can run for President? (This is not a random Nobel Prize winner to cite.). Can you cite a Nobel Peace Prize winner outside of a local Venezuelian opposition leader who supports the attack? I am not sure these three citations are truly unbiased individuals that are empirically looking at the long term effects for the region...
TDS. ‘Brown nosing Trump? If you really meant trying to work with the hemisphere’s (and world’s) economic and military leader for the betterment of their country, then yeah, I agree with you. And right now there is only one most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. Heck, she won it Specifically FOR her opposition of Maduro. She won it over the guy who ended the Israeli/Hamas war. You want her to be unbiased? You want the Presidents of Ecuador and Argentina to be unbiased? Sorry, but they are supposed to biased in favor of the people of South America. Bottom line is you can find a laundry list of people who wanted Maduro out. And a list of zero who wanted Maduro to continue his dictatorial reign. But there was only one person with the balls (or recklessness?) to actually do something about it By the way, the country has been officially renamed TRUMPZUELA.
TDS because I don't support invading a country to charge somebody with drug distribution? Two things can be true, IE 1. Maduro is a bad guy. 2. We should not invade a country to arrest a bad guy on what I would consider modest charges. -------- Hussein was far worse than Mudero, and you opposed the Iraq War. Kim Jong Un is worse than both, and you don't support a full scale invasion of North Korea. Putin is worse and you don't support an invasion of Russia. There are at least 30 other leaders that are significantly worse than Maduro (like many times worse,) that I am sure you have no interest in removing because it would be complicated and the benefit to the U.S. would be nothing. Removing Maduro was not about ethics or philosophy, it was for a more economical reason.
Were you for or against invading a foreign country to assassinate OBL? In general, I am against most foreign conflicts that result in American troops deaths. Of course there will be exceptions, like if we knew of an imminent attack on US citizens home or abroad. And as always, I am practical about who I want to attack. Damn straight I don’t want to go after China or Russia or North Korea because that would result in lots of American deaths. Seems like Venezuela is not planning on mounting any military response. Do you think Venezuela will now have a leader elected by the people of Venezuela or not? If so, will you admit that Trump’s actions were a success? Name the 30 leaders worse than Maduro, by the way…
I have no idea who OBL is, and google is turning up nothing, so no clue if I should be for or against it. As for 30 leaders: 1.Vladimir Putin 2. Xi Jinping 3. Kim Jong Un 4. Ali Khamenei 5. Mohammed bin Salman 6. Abiy Ahmed 7. Bashar al-Assad 8. Isaias Afwerki 9. Paul Kagame 10. Abdel Fattah al-Burhan 11. Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo 12. Ibrahim Traoré 12. Assimi Goïta 13. Félix Tshisekedi 14. Min Aung Hlaing 15. Shehbaz Sharif 16. Hibatullah Akhundzada 17. Daniel Ortega 18. Viktor Orbán 19. Nayib Bukele 20. Aleksandr Lukashenko 21. Robert Fico 22. Jimmy Chérizier 23. Williom Ruto 24. Julius Maada Bio 25. Prabowo Subianto 26. Faustin-Archange Touadéra 27. Noureddine Adam 28. Charles Taylor 29. Benjamin Netanyahu 30. Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo I am not going to break down each one, and this is not in any particular order (just how they popped into my head,) so in no way saying this list is an order of who is morally superior to each other, but all are worse than Maduro. ---------- I think Venezuela will have a leader elected by Venezuela one day, I think Trump will run it as a U.S. proxy (or try to) for the foreseeable future. Trump's action as far as we know was only to arrest the President, so his actions were already a success based on the binary of the choice, so sure he succeeded in his goal. If his goal was good or corrupt is another matter.... Even if Venezuela elects their Bernie Sanders as President, I do not think what he did was right. A good outcome can result from a bad action.
I haven’t heard of a bunch of them. I wikipedia’d Fico. I can’t find how on any planet you can consider him worse than Maduro. And same for Netanyahu. But I would expect you to hate a strong leader of Jews who stands up to terrorists. I am impressed though with your knowledge of world affairs if you came up with that extensive a list without Google/AI help. Think about the sad state of affairs in those many countries…. and how good we have it here, where we have a leader who we actually elected.
I made a list of 30 names, 1 is Jewish, 1 is atheist (kind of, Korea almost has what I would call their own weird religion,) and the rest are pretty evenly split between Christian and Muslim, but I am in the wrong for including a single Jewish leader? I did use Google to search the spelling on many of them, and in some cases to remember a name (like "name of Bulgaria leader"... to be honest,) but the list is my own. I agree we are very fortunate compared to most of the world, but that does not mean I can't criticize government actions. |
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| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021
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Posts: 5468 | Quote: SOOPOO Think about the sad state of affairs in those many countries…. and how good we have it here, where we have a leader who we actually elected.
Bwa ha ha ha *golf clap* The thing is, Trump is simultaneously a bully and a coward, trolling us on the world stage. Imperialism running amok. |
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| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Posts: 5726 | Quote: missedhervee Bwa ha ha ha
*golf clap*
The thing is, Trump is simultaneously a bully and a coward, trolling us on the world stage.
Imperialism running amok.
That’s EXACTLY what my wife called Trump last night. Bully and a coward. Even though both are clearly pejorative terms, there are attributes of both that a leader must embrace. The bully is willing to exert his strength over adversaries weaker than him. You of course hope it is done for good reasons and not just ‘because I can’. And the coward will shy away from a conflict for fear. Avoiding conflicts that will cause yourself more harm than benefit is good. Seems like the loudest in opposition are China, Russia, and Iran. Maybe it was a good idea then? Where are those that say Putin owns Trump or similar drivel? Trump, rightly or wrongly, fears no one. And OMG, did someone upthread not recognize OBL as Osama Bin Laden in a discussion about baddies the USA took out? (OMG is short for Oh My God) |
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| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 22930 | News showed Maduro thugs roaming the streets. Like Saddam, there are still a significant number of people who know they are in trouble if the regime completely collapses. Trump needs to start the war with boots on the ground. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
