Israeli conflict

June 23rd, 2025 at 11:26:21 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Uh, didn't we bomb 48-72 hours ago?


That is not going to have a huge impact, today and tomorrow are what will impact the markets. That is why I am projecting late this week early next week prices will be much different.

What will really matter the most is the day that they close the straight, if they do this, who even knows, the market will be insane.
June 23rd, 2025 at 11:30:31 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Gandler
That is not going to have a huge impact, today and tomorrow are what will impact the markets. That is why I am projecting late this week early next week prices will be much different.

What will really matter the most is the day that they close the straight, if they do this, who even knows, the market will be insane.


Do you think in 7 days oil prices will be higher than yesterday? My guess is if they are they will be less than 5% higher. You are correct if they are able to block the straight of Hormuz they will definitely go higher.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 23rd, 2025 at 11:43:46 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: DRich
Do you think in 7 days oil prices will be higher than yesterday? My guess is if they are they will be less than 5% higher. You are correct if they are able to block the straight of Hormuz they will definitely go higher.


Yes. Even without this situation there is a good chance they would have been higher naturally in 7 days (they have been way low the last couple weeks, some would say too low.)

However, factor in this situation, on top of natural fluctuating, I am positive oil prices will be higher than today. And, factor in the increasingly likelihood that Iran will or will at least attempt to close the straight, there is no way they will be lower in 7 days.

My guess is even by tomorrow, it will be up a couple cents, because Trump's directive to artificially keep prices low, caused a drop of 75cents this morning, which was not market based. So even by tomorrow a small rise of a couple cents would be very expected.
June 23rd, 2025 at 12:06:55 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
Same ones who believe the 2020 election was stolen.


No, the smart ones know it was stolen.

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Same ones who trust the word of Putin over that of the CIA / NSA.


No idea what you are talking about here?

It is funny, watching looks like you. For 45 years now Iran has been screaming "DEATH TO AMERICA!"

But because Trump is in you are yelling, "IRAN, NUMBER ONE! RUSSIA, NUMBER ONE! USA ACK, PHOO!"

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 23rd, 2025 at 12:52:03 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, the smart ones know it was stolen.



No idea what you are talking about here?

It is funny, watching looks like you. For 45 years now Iran has been screaming "DEATH TO AMERICA!"

But because Trump is in you are yelling, "IRAN, NUMBER ONE! RUSSIA, NUMBER ONE! USA ACK, PHOO!"




Iran screams "down with America" Death to America is a common mistranslation. And, frankly their revolution chant is justified because they were pushing out an American backed dictator.

Iran is only an issue because we made it so. Iran is an example of a country we have been on the wrong side of history the whole time.
June 23rd, 2025 at 1:00:42 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Gandler
Yes. Even without this situation there is a good chance they would have been higher naturally in 7 days (they have been way low the last couple weeks, some would say too low.)



I thought when Brent hit $78 last week it was on the high side. I would not expect it to be above $82 next week unless there is a successful blockade.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 23rd, 2025 at 1:05:47 PM permalink
Evenbob
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When Trump gave the speech when he came down the elevator in Trump Tower in 2015 and announced his candidacy, he said he was going to wipe out Iran's nuclear program. Unlike Democrat presidents he actually does what he says he's going to do, or at least he tries to. Democrat presidents make all kinds of promises and then do absolutely nothing. Well, Obama improved his bowling game on the White House Lanes, so I guess he did accomplish something.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 23rd, 2025 at 1:29:16 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: Gandler
I know all of these idiots who take the words of a President literally... We should really take them as creative art...


Two words: "fecal painting."
June 23rd, 2025 at 1:55:51 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Quote: AZDuffman
No, the smart ones know it was stolen.



No idea what you are talking about here?

It is funny, watching looks like you. For 45 years now Iran has been screaming "DEATH TO AMERICA!"

But because Trump is in you are yelling, "IRAN, NUMBER ONE! RUSSIA, NUMBER ONE! USA ACK, PHOO!"




Iran screams "down with America" Death to America is a common mistranslation. And, frankly their revolution chant is justified because they were pushing out an American backed dictator.

Iran is only an issue because we made it so. Iran is an example of a country we have been on the wrong side of history the whole time.


If you believe that you believe anything.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 23rd, 2025 at 3:01:04 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: AZDuffman
If you believe that you believe anything.


Bwa ha ha ha

So you don't believe the Shah was installed by the CIA after America undermined and helped overthrow the regime then in power in Iran?

What did you do during history class, play with yourself?

Fact check, Einstein:

The overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 was orchestrated by the CIA,

with support from the British, as part of Operation Ajax. This operation aimed to reinstate the Shah,

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had been sidelined by Mossadegh's government. The CIA's involvement

included propaganda, bribery, and orchestrating riots and protests against Mossadegh