Israeli conflict

Quote: missedhervee

No, you're as confused and deluded about reality as the oaf is: note that his "trophy wife" Melania finds the oaf to be as toxic and unwelcome as I do.

Reality is Trump has you totally controlled. He could put a bowl of dog dirt in front of you and tell you not to eat it. Buy you would say, "The oaf is lying, this is a bowl of corn flakes" and ask for some milk.

Quote: AZDuffman

Reality is Trump has you totally controlled. He could put a bowl of dog dirt in front of you and tell you not to eat it. Buy you would say, "The oaf is lying, this is a bowl of corn flakes" and ask for some milk.

BWA ha ha ha...as usual you swim in the shallow end of life.

You think he controls me?

What a hoot!

He's got YOUR number, boyo, not mine.

I simply call him out: you worship him; it's like I'm the atheist pointing out the idiocy of your belief in a false god.

But hey, I get it...you need SOMETHING to believe in, your life is so pitiful without it.

Loser.

Quote: AZDuffman

I KNEW IT!

Liberals cannot handle a Confederate Flag, but waving a flag of a nation that chants "DEATH TO AMERICA" is no real problem.

Shows who they are.

Do you have a problem with liberals waving Mexican Flags? Mexico attacked the USA and tried to take land from it. By your standards, is it as offensive to you as the Confederate Flag?

China attacked and killed many USA forces. There is still no peace treaty on that one. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese flag?

One has to wonder how pure your position is.

My position is pretty pure, and I talk about flags way more than the average human, so it's pretty well established. I've even said it on here multiple times over the years.

I am a free speech advocate, so I am fine with anyone flying or burning any flag, and they should not only not be arrested, but be defended by the police if attacked.

I have no problem with liberals or anyone waving Mexican flags (hate to deal it to you, but many conservatives do to, where I live the Mexican community is actually pretty conservative.) Mexico did have a war with the U.S., I wouldn't say they invaded us, it's quite complicated, basically they were in a war with Texas (when it was its own country,) over land, and did invade Texas, and annexed some land. Technically the U.S. then invaded Mexico (since U.S. as an entity was never attacked.). It's very convoluted and basically can debate who is right and wrong for hours, not going to get much more into it. But, no Mexican flags do not offend me, and even if they did I would defend their right to fly them.

China flags do offend me, I am not going to justify why, it's just an evil country, I am not going to list an incalculable list of Chinese offenses and horrific policies... That being said people have a right to fly them if they desire, I will look down on people for doing so.

My view with Iran is somewhere in the middle of China and Mexico. Iran, not a great country to idealize, but if you are showing Iran support in the sense that they need to be left alone (because we are responsible for the errors in their government,) I can kind of understand the flag as a sign of the principle.

That being said the Confederacy offends me the most, because it is domestic, and has killed more than the other 3 countries combined despite existing barely over 4 years. Also, it existed to protect the system of slavery, so even if it caused 0 military deaths, just the principles are atrocious. I don't understand the obsession the right has with the Confederacy (well I have suspicions, but I won't get into that here.)

CSA flags offend me more than Nazi flags, because nobody is trying to rebuild Nazi Germany in America, it's localized, I am not saying the Confederacy is the worst organization in world history (may not be far off though,) but it's the worst that we locally have dealt with, so that makes it more relevant domestically. That being said people have the legal right to fly it along with Nazi flags and whatever else, but like the Chinese flag, Gandler will look down on them.

So yes for domestic security, Confederate flags are the most problematic by far.

Quote: missedhervee

BWA ha ha ha...as usual you swim in the shallow end of life.

You think he controls me?

Think it? Nah, I see and know it. Clear as day.

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I simply call him out: you worship him; it's like I'm the atheist pointing out the idiocy of your belief in a false god.

But hey, I get it...you need SOMETHING to believe in, your life is so pitiful without it.

Loser.

Voting for someone is "worshiping" them? Truth is few Trump supporters changes a position because of him. We voted for him because he shared our values.

I have to ask you, have you always supported Iran? Like when they took hostages back when you were doing your matchbook college? Do you like how they treat women? Or did you convert because Trump stood up to them?

Quote: Gandler

That being said the Confederacy offends me the most, because it is domestic, and has killed more than the other 3 countries combined despite existing barely over 4 years. Also, it existed to protect the system of slavery, so even if it caused 0 military deaths, just the principles are atrocious. I don't understand the obsession the right has with the Confederacy (well I have suspicions, but I won't get into that here.)

CSA flags offend me more than Nazi flags, because nobody is trying to rebuild Nazi Germany in America, it's localized, I am not saying the Confederacy is the worst organization in world history (may not be far off though,) but it's the worst that we locally have dealt with, so that makes it more relevant domestically. That being said people have the legal right to fly it along with Nazi flags and whatever else, but like the Chinese flag, Gandler will look down on them.

So yes for domestic security, Confederate flags are the most problematic by far.

The right does not have an obsession with the CSA, the left does. Democrats lost the Civil War back then and seem to not be over it.

That reminds me, you support Democrats who supported slavery yet have no problem with that. Democrats were also the Jim Crow party yet you still support them. Most of this was after the CSA was long gone. You are not very consistent. Just saying.

Anyhow, the Confederate Flag remained a southern symbol long after CSA was gone. NASCAR to Southern Rock, it was displayed with no issue. Conservatives think of it this way, or as a simple rebellion symbol.

Democrats, OTOH, have an obsession with it.

CSA does not even make the top-10 as far as historically bad countries/societies.

Quote: AZDuffman

I KNEW IT!

Liberals cannot handle a Confederate Flag, but waving a flag of a nation that chants "DEATH TO AMERICA" is no real problem.

Shows who they are.

Do you have a problem with liberals waving Mexican Flags? Mexico attacked the USA and tried to take land from it. By your standards, is it as offensive to you as the Confederate Flag?

China attacked and killed many USA forces. There is still no peace treaty on that one. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese flag?

One has to wonder how pure your position is.

It's like all these gay guys supporting Palestine and saying death to Israel. They don't realize that if they were actually in Palestine they would be stoned to death where they stood for being gay. Idiots

Quote: AZDuffman

The right does not have an obsession with the CSA, the left does. Democrats lost the Civil War back then and seem to not be over it.

That reminds me, you support Democrats who supported slavery yet have no problem with that. Democrats were also the Jim Crow party yet you still support them. Most of this was after the CSA was long gone. You are not very consistent. Just saying.

Anyhow, the Confederate Flag remained a southern symbol long after CSA was gone. NASCAR to Southern Rock, it was displayed with no issue. Conservatives think of it this way, or as a simple rebellion symbol.

Democrats, OTOH, have an obsession with it.

CSA does not even make the top-10 as far as historically bad countries/societies.

Hillary Clinton's best friend was a former Grand wizard in the KKK in the Senate, Democrats had no problem with that. The KKK was started and run by democrats, it was the military wing of the democratic party for decades. That's just fine with Libby's.

Quote: Evenbob

Hillary Clinton's best friend was a former Grand wizard in the KKK in the Senate, Democrats had no problem with that. The KKK was started and run by democrats, it was the military wing of the democratic party for decades. That's just fine with Libby's.

This is sheer delusion. The issue that matters today, is 100% of KKK members are Republicans, and 0 records of Democrats being members. And, the KKK is closely aligned with conservative philosophy.

As for Byrd (who you are clearly referencing,) he was not a Grand Wizard, he was a local leader who briefly held the Exhaulted Cyclops slot for his local chapter (this is the title leaders of the chapter get, and since he founded the chapter by rallying a bunch of neighbors to join him...) And, he left the organization in the 1940s, and has been apologizing for decades for being a member.

Quote: AZDuffman

The right does not have an obsession with the CSA, the left does. Democrats lost the Civil War back then and seem to not be over it.

That reminds me, you support Democrats who supported slavery yet have no problem with that. Democrats were also the Jim Crow party yet you still support them. Most of this was after the CSA was long gone. You are not very consistent. Just saying.

Anyhow, the Confederate Flag remained a southern symbol long after CSA was gone. NASCAR to Southern Rock, it was displayed with no issue. Conservatives think of it this way, or as a simple rebellion symbol.

Democrats, OTOH, have an obsession with it.

CSA does not even make the top-10 as far as historically bad countries/societies.

I have never supported a Democrat or anyone that has supported slavery. If anyone ran supporting slavery, I would oppose them regardless of their party, and even I agreed on every other issue, this would be an automatic disqualifier. I don't know where this is even coming from or who you are implying I support that is pro-slavery... And, if somebody came out as a slavery supporter, I would immediately stop supporting them...

I disagree, it easily makes the top 10 scaled per existence time, because existing only 4 years, it has done insurmountable damage. Sure maybe less global effects than say the Mongolian Empire which had 200 years to raid, enslave, and seize land (and had the benefit of mobility.)

Quote: AZDuffman

We voted for him because he shared our values...I have to ask you, have you always supported Iran? Do you like how they treat women?...

What "values" of Trump's do you find laudable?

Certainly not his treatment of American women... "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

I do not disagree with all of his political positions and policies; while I vote Libertarian and consider mysel unaffiliated with any party I deem myself a good judge of character and Trump is simply unfit to rule, and this belief colors my view of the man and his actions.

You MAGA-sheep overlook this in your desperation to avoid progressive change, which you perceive as a threat.

I've no use for progressive change but I've less use for a multiply convicted felon, a woman debasing, lying sack of shit con man like your hero.