Trump and Epstein

November 18th, 2025 at 5:25:17 PM permalink
Gandler
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You are hurting my brain. I’m not nor never said Epstein wasn’t guilty of what he was convicted of. I’m saying Trump did not partake in any of said underage girls. And I highly doubt Trump and Epstein were close friends. Probably more like 2 billionaires trying to one up the other in business dealings. No one cares about Epstein. He’s long dead. They care about which politicians they can attach to him.


I would contend that was always the most interesting thing about Epstein, even when he was living. It was known he was a weirdo pervert/trafficker/abuser. But, why and with who. If there are politicians who partook or even covered for him, we deserve to know. And, not just politicians, anything, staff, media, celebrities, etc...

I don't think Trump abused underage girls. I do think he knew stuff that he did not report, and remained friendly with Epstein longer than he claimed (which with what little leaked already indicated is probably true.)

I would argue covering/normalizing for Epstein is worse than partaking for a night. Because, it's the difference between one victim and facilitating potentially hundreds of victims going forward.
November 18th, 2025 at 6:21:43 PM permalink
missedhervee
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I highly doubt Trump and Epstein were close friends.


Before entering politics in 2015 Trump and Epstein visited each other's real estate properties regularly.

Trump and Epstein socialized frequently throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, including attending parties at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida and Epstein's residence.

Flight logs released during an associate's trial confirm that Trump flew on Epstein's private jet multiple times in the 1990s, and according to Epstein, Trump first had sex with his future wife Melania Knauss in his private jet.

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more oafishness from the oaf, who bleated to reporters on Air Force One that “Jeffrey Epstein and I had a very bad relationship for many years,”

A female Bloomberg reporter tried to follow that initial question up by asking Trump, if there was nothing incriminating in the government’s Epstein Files, why he doesn’t just personally order their release.

However, Trump interrupted her.

He leaned in, pointed a finger at the journalist and said, “Quiet. Quiet, piggy.”

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Will somebody PLEASE flense and debone this insane orca?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKq0hqRc8uQ
November 18th, 2025 at 11:14:44 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Online influencer Andrew Tate, a self-described misogynist who has millions of young male followers, was facing allegations of sex trafficking women in three countries when he and his brother left their home in Romania to visit the United States.

“The Tates will be free, Trump is the president. The good old days are back,” Tate posted on X before the trip in February — one of many times he has sung the president’s praises to his fans.
But when the Tate brothers arrived by private plane in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, they immediately found themselves in the crosshairs of law enforcement once more, as Customs and Border Protection officials seized their electronic devices.

This time, they had a powerful ally come to their aid. Behind the scenes, the White House intervened on their behalf.

Interviews and records reviewed by ProPublica show a White House official told senior Department of Homeland Security officials to return the devices to the brothers several days after they were seized. The official who delivered the message, Paul Ingrassia, is a lawyer who previously represented the Tate brothers before joining the White House, where he was working as its DHS liaison.
In his written request, a copy of which was reviewed by ProPublica, Ingrassia chided authorities for taking the action, saying the seizure of the Tates’ devices was not a good use of time or resources. The request to return the electronics to the Tates, he emphasized, was coming from the White House.


https://apple.news/AgNKy2SLySx2aJw-AswPisw


Not to take Andrew Tate's side on this, but the Tates are natural born US citizens and have an absolute right to return to within the territorial borders of the United States. They may have come for a "visit", but as citizens they can visit as they please. As for the other stuff, it speaks for itself.
November 19th, 2025 at 5:40:45 AM permalink
Gandler
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Online influencer Andrew Tate, a self-described misogynist who has millions of young male followers, was facing allegations of sex trafficking women in three countries when he and his brother left their home in Romania to visit the United States.

“The Tates will be free, Trump is the president. The good old days are back,” Tate posted on X before the trip in February — one of many times he has sung the president’s praises to his fans.
But when the Tate brothers arrived by private plane in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, they immediately found themselves in the crosshairs of law enforcement once more, as Customs and Border Protection officials seized their electronic devices.

This time, they had a powerful ally come to their aid. Behind the scenes, the White House intervened on their behalf.

Interviews and records reviewed by ProPublica show a White House official told senior Department of Homeland Security officials to return the devices to the brothers several days after they were seized. The official who delivered the message, Paul Ingrassia, is a lawyer who previously represented the Tate brothers before joining the White House, where he was working as its DHS liaison.
In his written request, a copy of which was reviewed by ProPublica, Ingrassia chided authorities for taking the action, saying the seizure of the Tates’ devices was not a good use of time or resources. The request to return the electronics to the Tates, he emphasized, was coming from the White House.


https://apple.news/AgNKy2SLySx2aJw-AswPisw


Not to take Andrew Tate's side on this, but the Tates are natural born US citizens and have an absolute right to return to within the territorial borders of the United States. They may have come for a "visit", but as citizens they can visit as they please. As for the other stuff, it speaks for itself.


I think you are misreading the article. Nobody is disputing they have a right to return to the country. CPB wanted to seize their electronic devices for obvious reasons. Trump demanded the devices be returned to them. Of course Trump is helping another international sex trafficker...
November 19th, 2025 at 6:19:05 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Online influencer Andrew Tate, a self-described misogynist who has millions of young male followers, was facing allegations of sex trafficking women in three countries when he and his brother left their home in Romania to visit the United States.

“The Tates will be free, Trump is the president. The good old days are back,” Tate posted on X before the trip in February — one of many times he has sung the president’s praises to his fans.
But when the Tate brothers arrived by private plane in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, they immediately found themselves in the crosshairs of law enforcement once more, as Customs and Border Protection officials seized their electronic devices.

This time, they had a powerful ally come to their aid. Behind the scenes, the White House intervened on their behalf.

Interviews and records reviewed by ProPublica show a White House official told senior Department of Homeland Security officials to return the devices to the brothers several days after they were seized. The official who delivered the message, Paul Ingrassia, is a lawyer who previously represented the Tate brothers before joining the White House, where he was working as its DHS liaison.
In his written request, a copy of which was reviewed by ProPublica, Ingrassia chided authorities for taking the action, saying the seizure of the Tates’ devices was not a good use of time or resources. The request to return the electronics to the Tates, he emphasized, was coming from the White House.


https://apple.news/AgNKy2SLySx2aJw-AswPisw


Not to take Andrew Tate's side on this, but the Tates are natural born US citizens and have an absolute right to return to within the territorial borders of the United States. They may have come for a "visit", but as citizens they can visit as they please. As for the other stuff, it speaks for itself.


I think you are misreading the article. Nobody is disputing they have a right to return to the country. CPB wanted to seize their electronic devices for obvious reasons. Trump demanded the devices be returned to them. Of course Trump is helping another international sex trafficker...


Just adding clarity in case there was confusion on the part of the reader as to why the Tates were able to come to the US. The article doesn't make clear. I didn't misread the article, especially the part about the phones still not being returned.
November 19th, 2025 at 6:22:20 AM permalink
rxwine
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I think you are misreading the article. Nobody is disputing they have a right to return to the country. CPB wanted to seize their electronic devices for obvious reasons. Trump demanded the devices be returned to them. Of course Trump is helping another international sex trafficker...


He helps anyone loyal to him including all kinds of criminals. I hope we can set the bar a little higher with the next President.
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November 19th, 2025 at 10:11:22 AM permalink
missedhervee
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He helps anyone loyal to him including all kinds of criminals. I hope we can set the bar a little higher with the next President.


Whether he's alive or not at the time a democrat next ascends to the presidency I can only hope and assume charges will be brought against him and his cronies.

Meanwhile, I have to hope that the state prosecution for election fraud, still alive but on life support in Georgia, goes forward under the newly appointed prosecutor.

"Jail to the chief."
November 19th, 2025 at 3:56:31 PM permalink
rxwine
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Whether he's alive or not at the time a democrat next ascends to the presidency I can only hope and assume charges will be brought against him and his cronies.

Meanwhile, I have to hope that the state prosecution for election fraud, still alive but on life support in Georgia, goes forward under the newly appointed prosecutor.

"Jail to the chief."


Heh, if he’s alive and in any chance at all of jail, he’ll be rolling around in a wheelchair, with a blanket over his legs, “too sick for jail” like a mafia chief faker.
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November 19th, 2025 at 4:41:12 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Heh, if he’s alive and in any chance at all of jail, he’ll be rolling around in a wheelchair, with a blanket over his legs, “too sick for jail” like a mafia chief faker.


Yeah, no doubt his pesky "bone spurs" will magically return.

*poof*
November 19th, 2025 at 5:16:09 PM permalink
rxwine
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If Bondi had a lick of sense, she'd cut her losses and resign. Trump will eventually have her dig her own grave rather than take the blame for anything.
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