Charlie Kirk murder

Quote: Gandler

I simply don't agree, he is not well articulated in environments where he does not control the format. He was alright at doing small clips for a quick gotcha, but any kind form debate I have seen, he is not good.

Most people do different in a different format. You need to watch more of his videos then, because the guy was very, very good. I could have seen Trump making him press secretary as he would have eaten the media alive.

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As for his organization, I also didn't hear of that until he died. Maybe it's big, I don't know... It certainly was not on my campus...

I said what, 650 chapters? Applications for 65000 more and counting. Even if 90% of those flake that means 7,000 or so chapters soon. That is big.

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Who did the left honor for resisting arrest?

George Floyd. Decades earlier Rodney King.

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[I just don't find him impressive in structured debate formats, he is basically a clip content generator from my research.

Something tells me your research is PMSDNC and Chicken Noodle News. The guys was super smart and well spoken. He also dropped out of college. All are reasons so many leftists hate him.

Quote: AZDuffman

Something tells me your research is PMSDNC and Chicken Noodle News. The guys was super smart and well spoken. He also dropped out of college. All are reasons so many leftists hate him.

And you read Rush Limbaugh's old toilet paper.

Kimmel dropped out of college in the first year. Runs his mouth for a living. So obviously hated by the left.

What's super dumb about the whole thing, is Kirk himself wouldn't want Kimmel off the air for that comment.

Not according to what he apparently stood for.

Quote: AZDuffman

Most people do different in a different format. You need to watch more of his videos then, because the guy was very, very good. I could have seen Trump making him press secretary as he would have eaten the media alive.



I said what, 650 chapters? Applications for 65000 more and counting. Even if 90% of those flake that means 7,000 or so chapters soon. That is big.



George Floyd. Decades earlier Rodney King.

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[I just don't find him impressive in structured debate formats, he is basically a clip content generator from my research.

Something tells me your research is PMSDNC and Chicken Noodle News. The guys was super smart and well spoken. He also dropped out of college. All are reasons so many leftists hate him.

No, my research is going to his channel and watching his videos as they published. He is not impressive.

As for Rodney King, he was famous for getting beat by police, and he wasn't "honored" he was used as a way to rebel against police brutality. George Floyd same thing. Neither were honored, they were remembered.

Quote: Gandler

No, my research is going to his channel and watching his videos as they published. He is not impressive.

Not to you I guess. To millions of people he is.

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As for Rodney King, he was famous for getting beat by police, and he wasn't "honored" he was used as a way to rebel against police brutality. George Floyd same thing. Neither were honored, they were remembered.

There have been statues for Floyd. There were memorials for him nationwide, several of which turned into looting and riots. In my town a few stores boarded up before a local one just in case. A bigger one in the city was peaceful except for some dopey suburban kid who trashed a cop car. But in other places not so good.

Honored, remembered, call it whatever. The left still remembered a guy resisting arrest, the right a guy who reached out and debated the other side.

Quote: AZDuffman

Not to you I guess. To millions of people he is.



There have been statues for Floyd. There were memorials for him nationwide, several of which turned into looting and riots. In my town a few stores boarded up before a local one just in case. A bigger one in the city was peaceful except for some dopey suburban kid who trashed a cop car. But in other places not so good.

Honored, remembered, call it whatever. The left still remembered a guy resisting arrest, the right a guy who reached out and debated the other side.

How were either of them resisting arrest? And, that is not what they were known for. They were known for dying due to police brutality.

A terrible person can die due to police brutality, that does not make the brutality right.

Quote: Gandler

How were either of them resisting arrest? And, that is not what they were known for. They were known for dying due to police brutality.

Lets see, King led them on an 80mph chase thru residential neighborhoods and was still charging the cops with cuffs on. All you probably saw of the tape was the last few seconds looped over and over. Why on earth do you think so many cops were on him?

Floyd resisted to the point the cop had to put a choke hold on him.

Quote: AZDuffman

Lets see, King led them on an 80mph chase thru residential neighborhoods and was still charging the cops with cuffs on. All you probably saw of the tape was the last few seconds looped over and over. Why on earth do you think so many cops were on him?

Floyd resisted to the point the cop had to put a choke hold on him.

Yes, but the final minutes of both are what matters. Both are bad people, but being bad does not give the police an unlimited license to use force once the subject is detained.

The police were beating king. The officers were charged and acquited, this is what started the riots, not the video. And, while rioting is bad, it is also bad that the police were let off after such an incident.

Floyd is self evident, the cop kept him in a chokehold long after it was reasonable to do so. And, clearly caused his death. Cop was found guilty. The protests for this were due to the police brutality, not because Floyd was arrested. That being said, I still go back to my conspiracy on this one that there is more to the story. Both Floyd and the cop knew each other, and also worked security together at the same sketchy nightclub, there is definitely more going on between them.

"There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists." -Charlie Kirk

This is probably the most deranged quote by Kirk I have come across, even worst than his racist quotes in my eyes, because he was a Christian Nationalist and it appears that is what his organization is pushing.

Quote: Gandler

Yes, but the final minutes of both are what matters. Both are bad people, but being bad does not give the police an unlimited license to use force once the subject is detained.

The police were beating king. The officers were charged and acquited, this is what started the riots, not the video. And, while rioting is bad, it is also bad that the police were let off after such an incident.

If you asked people who knew, the cops followed all procedure on King, which is why the cops were found not guilty.

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Floyd is self evident, the cop kept him in a chokehold long after it was reasonable to do so. And, clearly caused his death. Cop was found guilty. The protests for this were due to the police brutality, not because Floyd was arrested. That being said, I still go back to my conspiracy on this one that there is more to the story. Both Floyd and the cop knew each other, and also worked security together at the same sketchy nightclub, there is definitely more going on between them.

I never saw the video on Floyd nor care to still. And they were not "protests" they were riots.