Charlie Kirk murder

Quote: Gandler

People have called Obama and Biden Communists, Dictator and Enemy of free speech as well.

The difference is, with Trump it's closer to true, but he just has a victim complex and can't take the slightest bit of criticism. But, Biden and Obama received far more mean words than him.

Absolutely

Quote: terapined1

Absolutely

Yeah…. No! The criticism of Obama and Biden was a small fraction of the criticism Trump gets. (That’s likely because Trump deserves it, but it doesn’t make the original statement anything but an example of TDS.). Obama and Biden might have had policies I detest, but they never acted like jerks.

Quote: SOOPOO

Yeah…. No! The criticism of Obama and Biden was a small fraction of the criticism Trump gets. (That’s likely because Trump deserves it, but it doesn’t make the original statement anything but an example of TDS.). Obama and Biden might have had policies I detest, but they never acted like jerks.

Obama got far worse than Trump. Heck, from Trump himself. Trump hired a team of investigators to prove he was born in Kenya (which he maintains to this day.) The idea that nobody is mean about Obama is absurd. The current President was one of the worst back then.

Fox News ran stories for months in 2014 about Obama wearing a tan suit when it was in inappropriate to do so (this is not a joke.)

Obama and Biden are just not cry babies when they have critics.

“Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” -Charlie Kirk

Quote: Gandler

“Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” -Charlie Kirk

If you replaced 'Jewish donors' with 'Liberal donors it's beyond dispute, and he means 'secular Jewish donors' he said, and I think he would have added 'liberal' if pressed.

Now it was indeed brought out that the recent anti-semitic activity by Leftist activist organizations was *ironically* greatly funded by Jews who, seemed to me, had trusted this couldn't happen.

Is it fair to start calling out Jews as "number one" and all that like Kirk did here? I don't like to see that at all considering how likely it is to get out of hand. And is it even true? He needed to provide a source for that

If the full context of the Kirk comment emphasized the above irony more than the condensement makes it seem, and provided a source, I'd be a little more OK with it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/28/thomas-jacob-sanford-identified-michigan-church-shooting-suspect/86409758007/

Trump supporter rammed a Truck into a church service and opened fire at a busy mega church. At least 4 dead, and 8 injured.

Let's see how long until they blame liberals...

Quote: Gandler

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/28/thomas-jacob-sanford-identified-michigan-church-shooting-suspect/86409758007/

Trump supporter rammed a Truck into a church service and opened fire at a busy mega church. At least 4 dead, and 8 injured.

Let's see how long until they blame liberals...

What does this have to do with CK murder?

Quote: AZDuffman

What does this have to do with CK murder?

This thread was never about Charlie Kirk, it has always been about political violence and related violence. This falls right back into many discussions on this thread so it is fair to post here.

Quote: Gandler

This thread was never about Charlie Kirk, it has always been about political violence and related violence. This falls right back into many discussions on this thread so it is fair to post here.

It is as bout the Charlie Kirk murder. Left wing violence and hate as it relates would be on topic. Other violence would not.

Quote: AZDuffman

It is as bout the Charlie Kirk murder. Left wing violence and hate as it relates would be on topic. Other violence would not.

Oh so it is only alright to talk about some random trans church shooting, but not a current shooting? Got it.

My opinion is it is fair to talk about political violence here, especially because the right seems desperate to cover this event up.