Better Call Saul

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October 10th, 2018 at 8:39:26 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Wow, I didn't realize that was the season finale. What a horrible season that was.


Once Chuck died, the show died with him..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 11th, 2018 at 2:15:14 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
No, the idea is to make Saul a sympathetic
character, like they did with Walter. You
can't have a successful series if the main
character isn't liked. Tony Soprano springs
to mind.


Walter was designed to be less and less likable as the show went on. Though the idea of "likable" does not always work out like they want.

JR Ewing was supposed to be villain, but he was so bad people started liking him. He went from mean villain to lovable villain.

Alex Keaton was supposed to be hated. The show's writers admitted they wanted you to hate the conservative. He went from mean very early on to lovable fan favorite. His support of Reagan was just too mainstream to be the bad guy.

Roddy Piper was so bad and got away with so much people started liking him.

Vic Mackay was supposed to be the bad guy, but his nemesis captain had his own flaws. I and many others liked him from the start and rooted for him to end up on top.

Saul will probably end up liked for beating a system trying to keep him down.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
October 11th, 2018 at 11:20:41 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman

Saul will probably end up liked for beating a system trying to keep him down.


I don't like Jimmy because he's boring.
The writers went on and on with the
nursing home work he was doing,
drove me up the wall. Or him constantly
kissing Chuck's ass for 3 seasons. He's
a boring character, the show usually
goes nowhere in his scenes.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 11th, 2018 at 11:24:58 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
I don't like Jimmy because he's boring.
The writers went on and on with the
nursing home work he was doing,
drove me up the wall. Or him constantly
kissing Chuck's ass for 3 seasons. He's
a boring character, the show usually
goes nowhere in his scenes.


They should have built the prequel around Mike or Gus. It be what it be.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
October 12th, 2018 at 12:25:03 PM permalink
Wizard
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I pretty much agree with the comments already made. Season 4 was the weakest. In no small part to no losing Chuck. The story line between Chuck and Jimmy was outstanding. Also agreed that Mike's story was much more compelling.

Loved the scene where they were singing Karaoke. For anyone who doesn't know, Chuck is played by Michael McKean who is a darn good musician and lead singer of Spinal Tap.

Nevertheless, I think I enjoyed it more than most of you.

I would like to say that I think Jimmy's statement to the Bar at the end of the last episode was not fake, but he meant every word. However, after the fact, when he saw how well it went, he lied about it being fake to Kim. I'd like to think there is some good and introspection in Jimmy. You saw it when he was crying by himself. That is a major plot point about the conflict within him, between a decent guy and a scumbag. We also see a similar conflict in Mike. Definitely a good show in terms of character development.
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October 12th, 2018 at 12:45:36 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
I'd like to think there is some good and introspection in Jimmy.


There is good in him. Remember in BB he took his duties as a lawyer and attorney/client privilege very serious. He worked for the little guy. He threw Walt out of the office when he tried to bribe him.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
October 12th, 2018 at 1:26:46 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: AZDuffman
There is good in him. Remember in BB he took his duties as a lawyer and attorney/client privilege very serious. He worked for the little guy. He threw Walt out of the office when he tried to bribe him.


Agreed. I also think he has a true soft spot in his heart for the elderly.
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October 12th, 2018 at 4:28:41 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
Agreed. I also think he has a true soft spot in his heart for the elderly.


He did take to them. Now he serves them all day.
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November 3rd, 2018 at 4:00:18 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Actor amputates own arm to get roles as disabled veteran...
Sounds like its straight out of the tv show and in a sense it is, but its straight from the headlines too.
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