The constraints of being a Curmudgeon on health and welfare.

Quote: Evenbob

You're trying to live on 200 calories a day? That's nuts.

As I said, I'm desperate.

Quote: Fleastiff

As I said, I'm desperate.

1200 a day for 2 months and you'll
lose 45 pounds. Do it or don't, 200
a day will kill you at your age.

fasting completely would be better than 200 calories - which will torture you

had 220 cals in unadorned ramen then ruined the day with probably 600 calories of peanut butter and 80 of milk.

Quote: Fleastiff

I do have some canned chicken/tuna/salmon and a jar of mayo to make it palatable. will try that tomorrow perhaps. trying to stay at 200 calories/day.

Chiming in as have others. 200/day will kill a person. Your system will shut down, and in the end you will burn even fewer calories. Anything I have read says <800 is very dangerous.

<800 I think you mean, but I would put that at <1600 for a man, eventually you die at about there

of course you can go with nothing for a while, days even, won't hurt you at first; but it often fails to do much to take off weight because your body adjusts to a lower metabolism

Quote: odiousgambit

<800 I think you mean, but I would put that at <1600 for a man, eventually you die at about there

of course you can go with nothing for a while, days even, won't hurt you at first; but it often fails to do much to take off weight because your body adjusts to a lower metabolism

Correct and corrected. <1600 will probably put you on the road to malnourishment long term, but I do not think it would be "dangerous" in the way <800 would be. <800 is getting to starvation level. Like you said, body starts shutting down. Then when you do eat more regular there is a danger because your stomach is in a sort of "sleep mode."

The nazis are accused of setting the number of calories in meals at just below what was needed to live for their slave labor in order to work them and also kill them. It seems one of the ways it worked well is it kept the prisoners from rioting due to the hope that things would turn around, and the slow realization it was not enough. In a google search below, 1300 calories per day is often cited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_through_labour

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-ab&ei=IHIGXMn3J4aJjwTylpPIDQ&q=concentration+camp+calories&oq=concentration+camp+diet&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i71l8.0.0..19050...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.DLlxJjnPs_E

I live in the county poorhouse under a city funded program. Not much chance of a riot here.
Everyone is either Old Geezer or Mental Case. Many are both. Some drug use and spousal abuse goes on
but that is about all.
I'm running low on milk so today is likely to be a grocery store day and with my lack of impulse control
I'll probably come back with some perishables and so will eat more over the next few days.
Had cerealand milk today. Don't know if its hot out or not... for some reason my screen started
reporting the temperatures only on the Kelvin scaleThs computer is pos.

Quote: Fleastiff

kimchi is carbs, isit not? cabbage.

Cabbage contains only 2.3 grams of net carbohydrates in a single cup.

With only 34 calories and no total fat per 100 grams serving, kimchi is a low-calorie, low-fat food. ... As a vegetable-based food, kimchi contains only 2 grams of protein per serving and low amounts of carbohydrates and sugars, but it does have 2 grams of dietary fiber per 100 grams.