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Gigafactory
| March 22nd, 2018 at 5:29:22 AM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Never understood the lyrics to Hey 19. Never saw much sense in most of what The Doors sang. Live music ? Billy Joel at his Shea Stadium concert had a young couple get engaged during the concert and he adlibbed a "Get a Pre-Nup" to them. |
| March 22nd, 2018 at 5:55:13 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11802 |
Check out the Walter Becker rap from Hey 19. Maybe Walter can help you understand. Rap starts 2:37 into the song Rip Walter. Miss you Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| March 29th, 2018 at 3:16:19 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 | Tesla is just months from a total collapse, says hedge-fund manager Debt downgraded this week. Musk can only con real money men so long. I've been calling this for years now, got laughed and yelled at. With his bonds down, more and more places cannot invest even if they want to do so. If only I could afford some LEAP puts. The President is a fink. |
| March 29th, 2018 at 10:34:27 AM permalink | |
| JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 |
I think they're out of time to get model 3 production to a reasonable rate. When enough of they're suppliers demand payment before delivery they'll go chapter 11. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
| March 29th, 2018 at 11:49:58 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Last I heard their cash burn was $8,000 a minute. Good point on the suppliers. You can always stall debtholders, but if steel stops showing up at the factory gate you are done. Of course, Tesla can't bend it right so that would not matter! HAR HAR HAR! The President is a fink. |
| March 30th, 2018 at 10:16:40 AM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Didn't Tesla just recall umpteen zillion cars? |
| March 30th, 2018 at 11:46:15 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Just halted production of S and X to try to make more model 3s. The end may be near, though I will wait a few weeks as I do not have the capital and I thinks Musk will make believe just one more time. Then I copy the Brownfield Fund boys and load up on cheapo puts. The President is a fink. |
| April 1st, 2018 at 4:42:25 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | In addition to the financial dire straits, and the production problems, add to it that today's hybrids with less than $3/gal fuel costs are cheaper by the mile. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4160351-tesla-model-3-costs-charge-gasoline-car "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| April 1st, 2018 at 5:02:57 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Guy sounds like what I have been saying for a few years now. Hybrids themselves have not taken off like the talking heads thought they would 10 years ago. Hybrids are all marketing, as if the idea was to save gas the manufacturers would put their energy into mild hybrids on large vehicles getting a 3-5 mpg bump. Not that I fault them for good marketing. But I do say look at reality, not what the Don Drapers of today are putting out. The President is a fink. |
| April 1st, 2018 at 5:17:00 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | 11 million sold worldwide, and now every major manufacturer has at least one in the lineup. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_electric_vehicles_in_the_United_States Consumer demand has put them into the 30mpg cars, yielding 55mpg cars. Apparently Ford is going to try the hybrids in a pickup truck. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1115487_xl-hybrids-adds-ford-f-250-hybrid-to-f-150-plug-in-hybrid-pickups-production-to-start-in-march The idea from the manufacturers isn't to save gas, it is to sell vehicles, and so far the demand for hybrids has been in cars, not trucks. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |