Hey FrGamble!

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December 7th, 2020 at 1:58:35 PM permalink
FrGamble
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I've been asking you to put God to the test and pray, but for some reason you won't. Don't worry God will never give up on you, He loves you.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
December 7th, 2020 at 4:06:58 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I've been asking you to put God to the test and pray, but for some reason you won't.


Waste of time. Look at Mother Teresa
as an example:

"If there be God - please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul," she wrote. "There is such terrible darkness within me, as if everything was dead. It has been like this more or less from the time I started 'the work,'" "How painful is this unknown pain - I have no Faith."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/mother-teresa-god-abandoned-article-1.236375

So if she can't get thru to god,
why would I even bother. He
clearly doesn't exist.

Quote:
Don't worry God will never give up on you, .


That and a dollar will get you
coffee at McD's. Or just bring
the dollar, it's all you need.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2020 at 9:17:11 AM permalink
Evenbob
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"If there be God - please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul," .


No comment, FrG? Your answer
to everything involving god is,
pray pray pray. Here's a famous
nun who prayed prayed prayed
for decades and got bupkis for
her effort and whined about it
forever. Will you say she was
doing it wrong? She wasn't
trying hard enough? That she
didn't really want an answer?

Remember, your Church made
this woman a saint. You can pray
to HER, a woman who admits
that prayer didn't work at all
when she did it. Can you see how
screwed up this is? Of course not,
the Kool Aid you drank is the
strongest kind, puts up permanent
blinders to truth, it does.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 9th, 2020 at 4:00:39 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Do you really think she got bupkis from her prayers? Do you really think she would agree with you?
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
December 9th, 2020 at 4:58:17 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Do you really think she got bupkis from her prayers? Do you really think she would agree with you?


What prayers. She stopped praying
privately decades before she died.
Waste of time and she knew it.
Some who knew her say she was
eventually an atheist, her belief
in god totally gone.

“I utter words of community prayers -- and try my utmost to get out of every word the sweetness it has to give -- but my prayer of union is not there any longer -- I no longer pray.” Mother Teresa Letters

I never liked her or respected her,
laying her head down every night
on silk pillowcases of some rich
follower where she was a guest
while the poor people in her
clinics lived in squalor. I'm warming
up to her now that she might
have been a secret atheist. And
the fact that people now pray to
her, a woman who stopped praying
because it didn't work, is kind of
delightful in a twisted way.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 10th, 2020 at 6:30:59 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Before we continue this conversation you need to read a little more about St. Mother Teresa and what was going on in her interior spiritual life. I think you aren't getting the whole picture. Here is a good article for you to read if you really want to have a discussion about it:

Mother Teresa's unfelt faith

Here is a wonderful prayer of Mother Teresa's that might also help:

Mother Teresa's Anyway Poem
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered;
Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.

If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.

What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.

The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.

Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.

You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and your God;
It was never between you and them anyway.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
December 10th, 2020 at 10:21:48 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble


Whoever wrote this article
is not familiar with her letters.

"the bottom line for the rest of us is this: she never quit trying."

Sure she quit trying, she said so.

"but my prayer of union is not there any longer -- I no longer pray.” Mother Teresa Letters

She was on auto pilot for most
of her life, just doing her job
and soldiering on. Just like 99%
of people in the world. Prayer
is neither here nor there because
all you're doing is talking to
yourself and hoping some god
is listening. If he is or isn't you
still have to pay the rent and put
food on the table. That's why
people who never pray are just
as successful and happy as people
who do pray.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 29th, 2021 at 12:06:41 PM permalink
missedhervee
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I never read much of the old Testament in the Bible as I was raised Catholic.

My buddy was also raised Catholic and while he's wavering he still has some faith; he just stumbled upon an interesting tidbit in the Old Testament he and I were unaware of: I'll share...he wrote to me the following:

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" Lot is sitting at the Gates of Sodom and two angels appear.
Being the only righteous man around, he bows down, etc. etc.

While in his house, the male population of the town, both young and old, surrounded the house, and caused a ruckus, demanding the angels come out so that THEY CAN HAVE RELATIONS WITH THEM. Lot then steps up and says to the angels---- no no dont go. I offer you my
two daughters who are still virgins.

The men leave, the angels pulvarize the city , or both, Lot is allowed to flee with warnings.
But his wife, against strict warning, turns around to look and is turned to a pillar of salt.

WOW, Somehow I missed the whole raping angels part."

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Whoa, Raping Angels.

That would be a good new name for the Washington Football team.
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