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Hey FrGamble!
| April 27th, 2020 at 10:52:59 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
We have covered this and you've agreed. He had total faith and trust in God's plan. Also you have shouted many times before that faith is not knowledge and have demeaned it as just wishful thinking. So I ask you which is it? Is having complete faith a certain knowledge or is having faith more akin to trust?
Why? If the solider knows the plan and follows it out leading to his death to save others is it not a sacrifice?
Again you are confusing yourself. Why can't you be fully aware of your divinity as God and yet as fully human be limited in your understanding? It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
| April 27th, 2020 at 10:54:59 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Yes I do know that and I disagree with them. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
| April 27th, 2020 at 11:33:49 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25030 |
Do you actually read what you write? You want it both ways and all ways at the same time. He was this and that and the other thing all at once. No sense can be made of it because that's what you intend. Make it a twisted pretzel mess of a mind game to get out of stating what the actual sacrifice was. This is far from my first time in this argument, I know the tricks the religion pulls. Just answer the question. Name the huge sacrifice god/Jesus made that was so awesome, so gigantic, so indisputably enormous, that it changed the world forever and we have to get on our knees daily to thank him. You can't do it, nobody can. Because there was no sacrifice. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 27th, 2020 at 12:11:12 PM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 |
Thompsons, chain reference study bible/ KJV / Large print/ Red letter/ When I said I hadn't read it cover to cover, I didn't mean that literally. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| April 27th, 2020 at 12:18:29 PM permalink | |
| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
And where does it say, in the Bible itself, the word of God, that it is not meant to be read straight through? Is that another man-made "interpretation" of the Bible and how it is to be read? Padre - do you see how you are sliding down a slippery slope? Some parts of the Bible are fact Some parts of the Bible are fiction The Bible is not to be read cover-to-cover Jesus is fully God Jesus is fully human Does God say, anywhere in the Bible - that some is fact and some is fiction? that it is not to be read cover-to-cover? |
| April 27th, 2020 at 12:31:24 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25030 | Jesus is fully God Jesus is fully human You forgot the most important part. Jesus is fully aware that he's both God and human and fully aware of all the implications of that. Except when he's being crucified, then apparently he forgot all about it. Much as they would like, Christians cannot have it both ways. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| April 27th, 2020 at 1:08:01 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | If you can't get the Cliff Notes edition, then its all malarkey. |
| April 27th, 2020 at 1:11:39 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Ace, I would highly recommend you stay away from libraries they would be very confusing for you. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
| April 27th, 2020 at 1:15:22 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You continue to hold unto this idea that somehow Jesus was not still both fully human and fully divine on the Cross. When did you hear that? I certainly never said it. Deal with your soldier analogy and it might help you. Again just to be clear, and I know you agree, being fully aware that you both God's Beloved Son and fully divine and that you are fully man does not mean you in your humanity have the full knowledge of God the Father. You get that don't you? It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
| April 27th, 2020 at 1:49:54 PM permalink | |
| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
What does that even mean? Are you equating the Bible to a library and that each book in the Bible is a separate book in the library? Your analogy would be more apropos if every single book in a library was in one bound volume but, the Bible is presented as one entire book without any instructions from God on how to read it? Are there any instructions from God on how to read the Bible or are all instructions given to others by man? |