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December 15th, 2016 at 12:14:48 AM permalink

RonC

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Seems like their were some voting irregularities:

"The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn't recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

"There's always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn't expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn't normal," said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/14/steins-recount-turns-more-votes-voters-detroit

Too many votes, as in more votes cast in a particular race than folks that actually were shown to have voted...

It isn't evidence of "widespread fraud" but enough of these little stories put together sure does show why we have to keep the vote safe from illegal voters, screwed up machines, and every other thing that changes the count. The national races are decided by thousands of votes or more in most cases. Local votes are often decided by very few votes.

December 15th, 2016 at 12:22:44 AM permalink
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013	Quote: RonC Too many votes, as in more votes cast in a particular race than folks that actually were shown to have voted... . They only amounted to hundreds for the big race, not enough to help Hillary much. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

December 15th, 2016 at 12:35:22 AM permalink

RonC

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Quote: Evenbob
They only amounted to hundreds for
the big race, not enough to help
Hillary much.

It isn't about "helping Hillary" or "hurting Trump" at all--it is about keeping the vote honest.

It'll never be 100% perfect but that should be the standard we look to attain with any voting laws...getting it right without regard to who the candidates are. Legal voters casting legal votes properly and then having them counted as cast.

December 15th, 2016 at 2:12:22 AM permalink

AZDuffman

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Quote: RonC
Seems like their were some voting irregularities:

"The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn't recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

"There's always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn't expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn't normal," said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/14/steins-recount-turns-more-votes-voters-detroit

Too many votes, as in more votes cast in a particular race than folks that actually were shown to have voted...

It isn't evidence of "widespread fraud" but enough of these little stories put together sure does show why we have to keep the vote safe from illegal voters, screwed up machines, and every other thing that changes the count. The national races are decided by thousands of votes or more in most cases. Local votes are often decided by very few votes.

This is too rich. Not only do they not only not help Hillary but they show the very fraud the liberals say in the places they say it was not happening. More reason for Voter ID laws!

The President is a fink.

December 15th, 2016 at 12:16:37 PM permalink

Evenbob

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Quote: AZDuffman
This is too rich. Not only do they not only not help Hillary but they show the very fraud the liberals say in the places they say it was not happening. More reason for Voter ID laws!

The Detroit story illustrates how effective
the EC is over winner take all. Any illegal
votes cast in MI didn't effect any votes
outside of MI. 100 extra Hillary votes in MI
won't cancel 100 Trump votes in FL. That's
what happens in banana republics, one illegal
vote cancels one legit vote anywhere in
the country. It makes it very worthwhile
to rig the system.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

December 15th, 2016 at 1:58:55 PM permalink

AZDuffman

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On his YouTube channel Dick Morris today speculated that Hillary is running this recount and EC thing as part of keeping her options open for 2020. I said weeks ago that I am not so sure she goes away quietly. It will be interesting. No real Democrat bench exists. Dopey feminists will want her to run again. It really will not affect things for nearly 2 years, but as midterms come up if she is still playing games it will freeze a lot of big money and power. Some may think she is a better shot than an unknown, so I am not at all counting it out.

The President is a fink.

December 15th, 2016 at 2:09:36 PM permalink

Evenbob

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Quote: AZDuffman
On his YouTube channel Dick Morris today speculated that Hillary is running this recount and EC thing as part of keeping her options open for 2020. I said weeks ago that I am not so sure she goes away quietly. .

It would be wonderful to see a 73 year
old Hillary to get beaten again. If you
think she had no energy this time,
wait till they have to throw her in the
back of the van 4 times a week.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.

December 15th, 2016 at 2:26:29 PM permalink

Wizard

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Quote: Wizard
Can I have the titles of the books and page numbers? Or specific quotes will do. Same request for the eye-contact allegation.

Quote: Evenbob
From a recent book 'First Family Detail' https://www.amazon.com/First-Family-Detail-Service-Presidents/dp/080413961X/ref=sr_1_1?tag=nypost-20

"Hillary was very rude to agents, and she didn't appear to like law enforcement or the military," former Secret Service agent Lloyd Bulman recalls. "She wouldn't go over and meet military people or police officers, as most protectee's do. She was just really rude to almost everybody. She'd act like she didn't want you around, like you were beneath her."
"Hillary didn't like the military aides wearing their uniforms around the White House," one former agent remembers. "She asked if they would wear business suits instead. The uniform's a sign of pride, and they're proud to wear their uniform. I know that the military was actually really offended by it."

http://www.starpulse.com/hillary-clinton-dislikes-military-in-uniform-secret-service-exposes-an-1848509161.html

Within the White House, Hillary had a "standing rule that no one spoke to her or make eye contact when she was going from one location to another," says former FBI agent Coy Copeland. "In fact, anyone who would see her coming would just step into the first available office." One former Secret Service agent states, "If Hillary was walking down a hall, we were told to hide behind drapes used as partitions."

A recent book is even better. https://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Character-Discloses-Firsthand-Experience/dp/1455568872
He goes into even more detail of how Hillary acted in the
WH. He was there, he saw it every day.

These stories have been around since the
90's, none of it is news.

Thank you.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber

December 15th, 2016 at 2:28:11 PM permalink
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18812	Quote: AZDuffman On his YouTube channel Dick Morris today speculated that Hillary is running this recount and EC thing as part of keeping her options open for 2020. He needs to stop sniffing airplane glue or whatever he's doing. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

December 15th, 2016 at 2:31:43 PM permalink
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18255	Quote: rxwine He needs to stop sniffing airplane glue or whatever he's doing. Why? What he says makes perfect sense. Has she denounced the whole recount thing? I mean, she was so upset at Trump at the debate you would think she would tell her supporters to give it up for the good of the USA. The President is a fink.

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