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The Trump Impeachment Thread
| February 11th, 2021 at 11:51:36 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11804 |
Give me a break. You jump on this? Lol It's a minor error that in the end is much ado about nothing. This won't even come up in history But History will remember Trumps 2nd impeachment Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| February 11th, 2021 at 12:09:41 PM permalink | |
| fleaswatter Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 3 Posts: 1087 |
Another member also responded to this post of yours. From their response it is completely obvious that he did not even bother to actually watch the video. If he did by some chance watch it, I am 100% dumbfounded by his response. Let's go Brandon |
| February 11th, 2021 at 12:18:05 PM permalink | |
| Tripdufan Member since: Oct 3, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 710 |
Yeah but you weren't dumbfounded when Trump suggested to his would be rioters to assassinate Hillary Clinton. Nuff said. |
| February 11th, 2021 at 2:35:10 PM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12538 |
Pro tip: responding indirectly to other members’ posts is sad. Just quote Terapined’s post if you want to respond. Don’t pull a Shrek on us and pretend you have everyone blocked. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| February 11th, 2021 at 4:44:13 PM permalink | |
| fleaswatter Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 3 Posts: 1087 | OOPS, look like dems played the wrong video during the "trial" today. P.S. dems: The Charlottesville you were talking about today is in Virginia, NOT North Carolina or West Virginia Let's go Brandon |
| February 11th, 2021 at 7:07:40 PM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4178 |
Ty Flea. I hope the defense team just shows that. And rests its case. Will save lots of time. I hate wastes of time. Also known as the Democrat strategy. I’m guessing 57 vote to convict. 43 to acquit. 10 short of number needed to convict. |
| February 11th, 2021 at 7:30:17 PM permalink | |
| Tripdufan Member since: Oct 3, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 710 |
Is it a waste of time because the Republican Party that you said was in trouble refuses to break their contract with the devil? You're not sitting at home and wondering why they are in trouble...are you? I hope not. |
| February 11th, 2021 at 8:36:47 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18764 |
3 years and 350 some days of loyalty almost got Mike Pence lynched. It's hard for me to differentiate between loyal Trump supporters and beaten women who keep making excuses for the vile wife beater husband they think loves them. I don't think a single person Trump respects likes him. Because anyone who likes Trump is just a doormat for Trump to walk on to get to somewhere else. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| February 12th, 2021 at 6:59:24 AM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4178 |
You are obviously correct. Trump has cut the Republican Party in half. They are in obvious trouble. Here is my take on his 2nd impeachment. I believe it is 100% constitutional. There is NO WAY the framers wanted a President to get a free pass in the waning moments of their Presidency. If the only evidence is using Trump’s quotes like ‘fight like hell’. ‘Don’t let them steal the election’. And the like.... those are ‘trumped’ by him clearly and unambiguously stating to do it ‘peacefully’. All the anti-Trumpers will repeatedly say they follow his orders.... except when they didn’t! I do not think the fact that his supporters are the criminals that stormed the Capitol is enough evidence to convict HIM. I mean, there were dozens of examples of political leaders egging on BLM ‘peaceful protests’ that anyone could foresee a violent end game. No one has charged any of those political leaders with anything. To my knowledge, none have been removed from office. Just like with Trump, they can be removed by being voted out. If I need to remind you, Trump has been voted out. The reason I might vote to convict is this. Once the insurrection started if it can be shown that he intentionally withheld aid in trying to end the insurrection, then to me THAT is defoliation of duty that would rise to the level of conviction. I am not sure the House Impeachment Managers proved that. To be fair, I did not watch the entire presentation, as it seemed like each manager just said the same thing the previous manager said, presenting no new evidence. The repetitive showing the insurrection was unnecessary in proving their case. It was done repeatedly for show, and that was quite obvious. I think there are people who could TESTIFY that he was aware and SPECIFICALLY withheld assistance for My wife made a great point.... if and when he is charged with any criminal complaint, Trump will likely be acquitted there too. Jury selection will likely include some ‘Trumpers’, even if mostly ‘Trump haters’. To convict, has to be unanimous. |
| February 12th, 2021 at 7:25:00 AM permalink | |
| TominNV Member since: Dec 3, 2017 Threads: 0 Posts: 15 |
That is absolutely not the only evidence. In addition to denying the most basic defenses that would have prevented the violence, another big piece of evidence is that the terrorists who attacked the Capitol said themselves they were doing this on orders from Trump. The falsely yelling fire in a crowded theatre analogy is overused, but in this case it is like Trump yelled "friar", and is trying to use that as his defense, even when everyone else heard "fire". Trump knew what those people were hearing, even if he did say "peacefully" one time in his hour long speech. If he didn't know that, then it was his words combined with his ignorance that allowed the violence to happen. In addition, Trump's lies led those terrorists to believe the 2020 election was fraudulent and full of illegal voting. That was the primary motivation behind the attack. None of the politicians who will be voting to acquit Trump are willing to agree with the idea that the result of American elections of based on fraudulent votes. As an aside, if anyone believes those lies, shouldn't that be a clear indication that Trump failed in his promise to Make America Great Again. Of course no person who has ever supported Trump has ever done so because they have any sense of logic.
Anytime someone has to bring up "What-about-ism" as a reason there should not be responsibility or accountability, the entire premise of the argument falls apart. |