The Trump Impeachment Thread
May 17th, 2019 at 10:42:24 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Not Mueller's job to clear him, as it's not a prosecutors job to clear anybody. Their only job is to determine if an indictable crime was committed. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 17th, 2019 at 5:09:37 PM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4182 |
THANK YOU! The number of CNN and MSNBC idiots who keep yapping that "Mueller report does not exonerate Trump" is stunning. There was NEVER a possibility of the report stating that Trump is innocent of ANYTHING. All Mueller could report is if there was evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia. He was unable to do so. But it is just as disingenuous of Trump to CLAIM he was exonerated, as that could not happen as well. What Trump could have said is "They were looking for evidence to indict or impeach me, and could not find it.".. |
May 17th, 2019 at 5:32:51 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
I am not sure I agree with you SOOPOO. It is very difficult to prove a negative. If you were accused of murder and found not quilty wouldn't you claim you were exonerated? The not guilty finding under your definition only means that they were unable to find evidence that you murdered someone and you were not exonerated. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
May 17th, 2019 at 6:50:59 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18776 |
Yeah but there were two findings in the report that are completely different. There's been no serious attempt to say, as you are asserting we are still trying to prove Trump colluded with Russia, because perhaps they didn't find the evidence. As far most people are concerned that part is settled in Trump's favor. The other conclusion about obstruction is completely different. It's not saying they found no evidence. It's certainly not saying Trump is exonerated. I mean whatever outrageous claim one wants to make about those two conclusions, pretending they both are meaning the same thing is beyond the pale. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 17th, 2019 at 7:08:57 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
It's fine I never expected anything but toe the company line from you. No evidence only means no evidence found so there must be some. I haven't found evidence that you are mean to unicorns but that doesn't exonerate you from unicorn abuse. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
May 17th, 2019 at 8:00:00 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Not really. Trump is not a lawyer, he can claim whatever he likes. If he feels exonerated, so be it. I would certainly feel that way if 20 prosecutors had been digging into every aspect of my life for 2 years and found nothing to hurt me with. Wouldn't you? They never thought somebody like Trump didn't have bodies buried everywhere. Imagine their exasperation when they turned up nothing. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 17th, 2019 at 10:40:14 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18776 |
The point is, if Mueller had wanted to say the same thing about obstruction as he did about collusion, it was easy to do so, just say there was no evidence of obstruction. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 17th, 2019 at 10:50:39 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
He did say that by not finding any. Duh. A prosecutor can't go to court and say that they exhausted every avenue and found nothing, but let's keep investigating in perpetuity until we do find something. It doesn't work like that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 18th, 2019 at 12:06:39 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18776 |
You're more laughs than a bag full of dead monkeys with your wrong conclusions. Here's the headline on the American Bar Association site about the report when it came out. "Mueller finds no collusion with Russia, leaves obstruction question open" What do you think that means? Duh. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 18th, 2019 at 7:23:14 AM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
His mandate wasn't to investigate obstruction. His statement was carefully crafted to give the sheepels something to believe in and to help cover up what a waste of time and money the whole investigation was. Apparently the statement accomplished it's purpose. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |