Massacre in Las Vegas
October 7th, 2017 at 10:54:08 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | I considered making this a separate thread but decided to just continue in this one. What about a purely MEDICAL focus for awhile? Motivation and Medicine. One possibility is malaria acquired in the Philippines. The parasite can be sexually transmitted also but usually that is male to female. Malaria and impaired metabolism of carbohydrates can increase assaultive behavior. We don't know however if he travelled there, only that she did. A much stronger theory would of course be Toxoplasmosis gondii as a somatic infection wherein the protozoan eventually infiltrated the cranium. This, with altered tryptophan and kynurenene levels would result in increased risk taking behavior (gambling) and increased assaultive behavior (suicide, homicide). Serum and hair testing should be performed. The primary metabolite of tryptophan metabolism of interest is n-formyl kynurenine which is heavily influenced by vitamin B6 levels. Any other medical causation issues come to mind? |
October 9th, 2017 at 11:31:56 AM permalink | |
JimRockford Member since: Sep 18, 2015 Threads: 2 Posts: 971 |
Do you have a source on this? According to accounts that I have read, Whitman never shot any victim more than once. It seemed to be a deliberate rule in his sick game. What saved lives in that incident was the civilians shooting at Whitman with hunting rifles. It forced him to stay below the wall and shoot through drainage holes limiting his targets. The mind hungers for that on which it feeds. |
October 9th, 2017 at 1:03:48 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | He never shot this victim at all but he did expend five rounds and a good bit of time in the attempt. This was a guy who was zigzagging for cover finally found some behind a column but was still visible and foolishly/bravely? had an arm and hand around the column and felt the bullet send granite fragments onto his hand. It was quite early in the incident and the PBS re-enactment film director would be your best source on this. |
October 9th, 2017 at 1:20:18 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | In any of these multiple shooting events, when someone be it the authority's or armed citizens start shooting back at the perp is when the dynamic changes and the murderers killing slows significantly or stops. All the laws to restrict guns hasn't stopped crazed killers. The one thing not try'd is more armed people. My suggestion on airlines is more armed sky marshals toward the back of the plane instead of this crazy TSA baloney with lines stretched forever and frisking old ladies diapers while allowing burka's to remain in place. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
October 11th, 2017 at 11:03:47 AM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 | Here is my two cents on the shooting: Commentary on the Las Vegas Shooting. I welcome commentaries on my commentary. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
October 11th, 2017 at 11:15:01 AM permalink | |
Ayecarumba Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 89 Posts: 1744 |
Thoughtful and well written Wizard. I appreciate that you put a human face on the tragedy by sharing about your friends and acquaintances, as well as your own personal situation. |
October 11th, 2017 at 11:19:39 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
"Consider medication. I've never said this publicly before, but I started taking antidepressants a year ago. All things considered, it has helped a lot." Interesting. What does the depression feel like, how did you know it was depression and not just unhappiness with your life. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 11th, 2017 at 11:33:22 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18210 |
I agree that depression, autism, shyness, and social awkwardness run in professional gamblers, APs, and just anyone who is not your average mark at the casino not caring if they lose or even play right. When you do better alone, a casino lets you be alone though surrounded by people. I would suspect that feeds some people's depression, go out to be with people but still alone. The President is a fink. |
October 11th, 2017 at 2:12:24 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I could spend hours discussing the answer to that question. For me it is a deep emptiness. Things that make other people happy do little for me, especially in the dark times. For some it gets so bad there is no reason to get out of bed as there is no joy to look forward to in the day. People who suffer from depression tend to see the world as a dark unfriendly place and will magnify the evil in it. A song I relate to is The Sound of Silence. It is of a world where people have little meaningful to say and don't listen anyway. Once you strip out all the noise, there is just silence left. A deep lonely silence. One that you become so used to that you take refuge in it to escape the wicked world. When this feeling is there all the time, although the degree can vary, I think it goes beyond just unhappiness. Depression I wouldn't even phrase as extremely unhappiness but more of an emptiness. Yeah. I could go on and on. Its hard to describe but if you have it, you know it. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
October 11th, 2017 at 2:23:46 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
In former times, before shrinks started labeling everything, what you describe would mean dissatisfaction with your life and your place in the world. But I've never been depressed, what do I know. I try and have things every day that I look forward to doing. It's why I have a dog, they are always excited about everything and always want to do whatever you're doing. I always tell people that if they feel down, just get a little dog, it works wonders. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |