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February 21st, 2021 at 9:34:06 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19835 |
What’s next you ask? Boy are you going to be surprised as the pandemic subsides and restrictions are removed and your premise is shattered by reality. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
February 21st, 2021 at 9:56:10 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
If I heard someone say to me, "Raise your mask between bites," and that person was a guy, I can't promise that I could keep myself from one punch KO'ing him...and I've never been the first to physically aggress in any fight that wasn't mutually agreed to. That said, I keep an eye out for the server and raise my mask if that person is approaching.
I guess we will just have to sit back and see if it happens or not. I haven't heard any mention of a vaccine mandate for public places anywhere...maybe something about airplanes? I'm not sure if it was that or I misheard, that was on TV News and I was hardly paying attention. Well, then the person is an idiot and a busybody. That's definitely not Government, though, that's just some random #$%holes. I've heard absolutely nothing to the effect of the Government ordering mandatory reporting of non-mask wearers in a building. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:01:41 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 19005 |
You mean like all the 9/11 restrictions got lifted? The President is a fink. |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:09:08 AM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4481 |
Nobody is saying that.
I think more people are supporting a vaccine passport than a mandate (which would allow businesses and companies the option to choose to require it for entrance or certain admittance such as admittance without masks etc....) I don't think many (maybe one or two) are advocating a government mandate. Though local and state level vaccine mandates have been ruled to be legal by the Supreme Court during an epidemic (which means surely a pandemic qualifies). So there is no way that people can say that it violates their rights (because it has been ruled that it does not)..... |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:09:59 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 19005 |
I believe it was the governor of California, or one of his stooges.
Give it time. Remember, people want to be told what to do so bad they will listen to anything. True when Draper said it, true now. You are living in a country where the government can lock you right out of the financial system. Where people cheer people they disagree with being locked out of social media. Do not act surprised if and when it gets suggested. The President is a fink. |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:12:30 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Did you read my one post the other day? I can link to it. The guy in that real life event would probably say that.
That's fine if it's something that individual businesses decide they want to do. Maybe that's what I heard re: airlines. I don't believe in the absolute infallibility of Government, so I maintain that something can violate my rights even if the Government doesn't seem to think so. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:16:25 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
"Oh brave new world that has such people in it." California's a weird country.
Who are these people? I don't know that many people who, "Want," to be told what to do. I know that there are a lot of people that will follow something simply because it is a law or mandate, but it doesn't automatically mean they support it. How could the Government lock you out of the financial system other than theoretically? Are you saying they could get rid of cash? I guess they could theoretically get rid of cash, but it's theirs to get rid of to the extent that they manufactured it. Don't worry, I won't act surprised by anything. Something would first have to be capable of surprising me. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:24:25 AM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4481 |
I don't know to which post you refer, but no, I don't think I recall anything about that. In any case that is not the mainstream view. I can't see anyone saying that seriously. I know some restaurants do request that you put your mask on when the server is at the table, even if you are actively eating, maybe that is what you are thinking of?
Of course, and that is all most people want. Very few people want a mandate, most people (at least on here and WOV) seem to favor passports. If high density businesses (such as casinos, clubs, airlines) and even schools want to require vaccines and use a passport to track that is their right. But, the only point is that mandates were ruled to be legal. Most people love to get vaccines, we all line up every year to get the Flu shot even though nobody forces us to get a Flu shot every year (in most cases, I know some employers do), but once the government tells people to get a vaccine they act like its a huge violation of their autonomy. Vaccines are a brilliant discovery, anyone who does not get one when offered for free is foolish in my view. |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:52:45 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 193 Posts: 19835 |
Sure, as soon as terrorism is under control like the Covid will be. Are you declaring terrorism over as a risk? That would be quite a statement for a conservative. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
February 21st, 2021 at 10:55:02 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3150/449/#post162824 You'd have to ask AZDuffman what he's referring to. The way he said it made me think it was one patron saying that to another. I know I was admonished in a casino for having my mask down, (I had a coffee) except for when actively taking an actual sip of the coffee...but that was a security guard (representative of the business) so he can ask me to do whatever he wants to ask me. If I don't like it, then I can leave. I thought it was stupid because I was taking frequent sips and had nobody near me, but that doesn't mean I can't choose to comply with something that I think is stupid. I guess I either have something more of a, "Not on this hill," mentality than some others...or maybe it's just that I'm slightly less insane than some other insane people.
Any non-essential business that wants to require a vaccine can and perhaps even some essential ones. Again, you can get a vaccine or simply not choose to patronize that business anymore...no problem with me there whatsoever. I don't get the flu shot and I'll get the Covid shot when I both qualify for it and feel like it, which might be never. I guess making a requirement for admission into enough of certain types of businesses would change my calculus on it. I guess my overall point is that I'm not terribly concerned about the virus, but I choose to respect the fact that many people are. If that makes me a sheep, then I guess I'm a sheep. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |