The Biden Presidency 2022

February 28th, 2022 at 9:24:07 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: ams288
Sorry RonC, kenarman, Tannko, etc.

You can’t whitewash everything Donny did to weaken NATO during his term.

Literally a simple Google search of “Trump weaken NATO:”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/10/trump-europe-nato-transatlantic-push-back/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/trump-privately-discussed-destroying-nato-alliance/amp
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/natos-biggest-problem-is-president-trump/2019/04/02/6991bc9c-5570-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/771933002
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-germany-troops-weaken-us-nato-russia-merkel-ally-2020-7?amp

But be sure to tell us again about how some Socialist group no one has ever heard of with 8 state senators in it doesn’t like NATO. 😂

NATO is strong because of the USA
We have the most powerful military on the planet
Of course we pay more
It's logic
It's about keeping NATO as strong as possible
It's common sense.

Meanwhile on Russian TV
Hot Air: Trump and Tucker Carlson are all over Russian state media.
https://hotair.com/headlines/2022/02/25/trump-and-tucker-carlson-are-all-over-russian-state-media-n451189

Meanwhile Russia is ignoring the tiny DSA just like the rest of the planet :-)
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February 28th, 2022 at 11:53:10 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Of course Biden is correct: he's an experienced politician.

Trump is a blowhard businessman without scruples; his plan was to run America sort of like a business, i.e. screw everybody else, try to make a profit if possible, and if things get tough pull the plug and file bankruptcy.

His proven business model.
February 28th, 2022 at 12:12:03 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: missedhervee
Of course Biden is correct: he's an experienced politician.


Being an experienced politician does not make one right.

Biden has so far been a bad to below average President, which follows a similar career as a politician.

He has been on the wrong side of a lot of things along the way.

Of course, I hope he does a good job leading us through the crisis we are now facing. We shall see.

He has been wrong, according to a prominent statesmen, on many foreign policy issues.
February 28th, 2022 at 12:19:52 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: RonC
Being an experienced politician does not make one right.

Biden has so far been a bad to below average President, which follows a similar career as a politician.

He has been on the wrong side of a lot of things along the way.

Of course, I hope he does a good job leading us through the crisis we are now facing. We shall see.

He has been wrong, according to a prominent statesmen, on many foreign policy issues.


Imagine being RonC and thinking that anyone actually cares about his opinion as to how Biden is doing as president.

Like, you were just carrying water for Donny’s awful NATO position a few hours ago. You think anyone is looking to you for an unbiased appraisal of Biden?!
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February 28th, 2022 at 10:50:18 PM permalink
Mooseton
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Imagine being AMS… I’ll leave it at that.
March 1st, 2022 at 2:48:53 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: RonC
We should have always pushed for members of NATO to pay their share of the expenses. Pulling out is not something we should have considered...


Pulling out was a bluff. A negotiation tactic designed to get those nations to pay more and get serious about defense spending.

Thanks to the US, with the money they've saved on military spending, Germany is able to provide universal health coverage and elder care.

Trump's threats and complaints about cost sharing policy, resulted in NATO nations getting more troops and more military spending.

"It's correct that we have now agreed a new formula for sharing those costs," Stoltenberg told reporters in Brussels. "The U.S. will pay less. Germany will pay more. So now the U.S. and Germany will pay the same, roughly 16% of NATO's budget."

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost

“During the first three years of that effort, originally known as the European Reassurance Initiative, the Obama administration dedicated about $5.2 billion to building up the American military presence in Europe.”



“The Trump administration has more than tripled what its predecessor spent on the EDI: A total of $17.2 billion has been requested”

"President Trump has been very clear: He is committed to NATO. He stated that clearly just a few days ago and also at the NATO summit in July," Stoltenberg said on "Fox News Sunday."
Stoltenberg said the tough approach paid off. 

"We agreed to do more to step up – and now we see the results. By the end of next year, NATO allies will add $100 billion extra toward defense," he said. "So we see some real money and some real results. And we see that the clear message from President Donald Trump is having an impact."

Trump talks about Putin, mocking Merkel and more at Mar-a-Lago

“I sent her a white flag,” he said of former Chancellor Angela Merkel. “She said, ‘What is this?’ I said, ‘It’s a flag of surrender so you don’t have to go out and buy a new one.’”
March 1st, 2022 at 3:08:41 AM permalink
Tanko
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Spaced out Biden finally returns from relaxing in Delaware.

Just like Trump, shows respect for the American people and the media by stopping to take the tough questions from the press.
March 1st, 2022 at 4:29:33 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tanko
Just like Trump, shows respect for the American people and the media by stopping to take the tough questions from the press.


I’m assuming the part about Donny ever showing respect for the American people and media was a sarcastic joke.
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March 1st, 2022 at 5:14:58 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko
Pulling out was a bluff. A negotiation tactic designed to get those nations to pay more and get serious about defense spending.

Nope
Trump was not bluffing
Where does this BS come from
Trump was trying to make NATO weaker
Tanko has now tried to change history lol
What's next, Trump was against the Jan 6 attack????????
Trump was the worst President for NATO ever
Trump was anti NATO because he is pro Putin
It's as simple as that
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March 1st, 2022 at 5:15:18 AM permalink
terapined
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