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February 28th, 2022 at 6:12:15 AM permalink

Gandler

Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256

Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

February 28th, 2022 at 6:46:35 AM permalink

terapined

Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 73
Posts: 11818

Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"

February 28th, 2022 at 6:49:25 AM permalink

ams288

Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
Posts: 12549

Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

February 28th, 2022 at 6:52:04 AM permalink

terapined

Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 73
Posts: 11818

Quote: ams288
Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

I think Tanko got furious at SNL and came here to set the record straight :-)

"SNL Mocks Trump and Tucker Carlson for Backing Putin in Ukraine"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-mocks-trump-tucker-carlson-063121290.html
This is common knowledge. Tanko trying to desperately change that

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"

February 28th, 2022 at 6:59:59 AM permalink

kenarman

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 14
Posts: 4530

Quote: ams288
Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

Come on AMS do a little research. Their membership includes 4 members of the house (including AOC) and 8 state senators. This is the vision of the left of the Democratic party.

"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

February 28th, 2022 at 7:19:28 AM permalink

terapined

Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 73
Posts: 11818

Quote: kenarman
Quote: ams288
Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

Come on AMS do a little research. Their membership includes 4 members of the house (including AOC) and 8 state senators. This is the vision of the left of the Democratic party.

4 house members and 8 state senators
What can this tiny minority get passed????????
Obscure cult scientology has more influence
Meanwhile anti NATO Trump continues to dominate the republican party winning the CPAC straw vote by a landslide

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"

February 28th, 2022 at 7:29:18 AM permalink

Gandler

Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256

Quote: kenarman
Quote: ams288
Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

Come on AMS do a little research. Their membership includes 4 members of the house (including AOC) and 8 state senators. This is the vision of the left of the Democratic party.

8 State Senators and 4 House members?
The Reds really took the party by Storm, how can the Democrats ever recover....

I am pretty sure Grover Norquest has more Republicans under his pledge in any one State, than that massive Army of 12 Democrats (and let's be real, nobody cares about the 8 State level politicians, so really four nationally). Even Bernie is not a member....

February 28th, 2022 at 7:58:31 AM permalink

kenarman

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 14
Posts: 4530

Quote: Gandler
Quote: kenarman
Quote: ams288
Quote: terapined
Quote: Gandler
Quote: Tanko
The Democratic Socialists of America, which includes members AOC and Sanders, demands US withdrawal from NATO and the end to imperialist expansion, which they claim set the stage for the Russian war on Ukraine.

Vladimir likes this. -smiley face.

Apparently, the desire of the Ukrainians to remain independent and free from Russian tyranny, had nothing to do with it.

“DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict,”

“While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.”

If Sanders and AOC ate against NATO that is just another reason to not take them seriously.

Every party has their extreme Nutwing. At least Democrats did not nominate one for President.

The desperation of the right
The whole world is against Russia
Except Tucker, Trump and many Republicans
This is the quick pivot of don't look at our party leader, look at the other party extremists.
It's comedy gold
Thanks Tanko :-)
AOC talks, Tanko listens

Yeah, it’s a desperate deflection.

Who is more anti-NATO than Donny?

AOC and Bernie? Sure, Jan. In your dreams.

Come on AMS do a little research. Their membership includes 4 members of the house (including AOC) and 8 state senators. This is the vision of the left of the Democratic party.

8 State Senators and 4 House members?
The Reds really took the party by Storm, how can the Democrats ever recover....

I am pretty sure Grover Norquest has more Republicans under his pledge in any one State, than that massive Army of 12 Democrats (and let's be real, nobody cares about the 8 State level politicians, so really four nationally). Even Bernie is not a member....

Bernie is a keynote speaker for their fund raisers. That is pretty strong support for them.

"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

February 28th, 2022 at 8:10:11 AM permalink
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12549	kenarman and Tanko’s desperation at trying to make the left the anti-NATO people tell us everything we need to know. Donny’s actions during his one pitiful term speak for themselves. Lots of pro-Putin righties trying to cover their tracks now! “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

February 28th, 2022 at 8:30:48 AM permalink

Gandler

Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 27
Posts: 4256

NATO is the most important alliance in world history, based on the amount of positive operations (and perhaps more importantly, what its existence prevented from occurring), anyone on any side who is against it, is just wrong.

This will encourage more countries to join (or rejoin) I suspect.

I can't imagine being invaded by one of most powerful militaries in the world, being surrounded by powerful allies, who are like, "Well we don't want to get involved even though our stability hinges on your country remaining, but here is some money and guns, good luck".

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