Ukraine conflict

March 4th, 2022 at 7:04:20 AM permalink
Gandler
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lmao

Biden is doing infinitely better than Donny would have in this situation.

And before one of our members who has been affected by Fox brain worms replies that “Putin never would have invaded if Donny were president.” This is true, but not because Donny was strong and Biden is weak. Donny was giving Putin everything he wanted: weakening NATO and undermining the EU. Of course Putin wasn’t going to rock the boat while his puppet was doing all his bidding.


This is exactly true, most people don't realize how pro-Putin Trump was. He would not even condemn attacks on Ukraine ships, and he wanted to veto sanctions (luckily they passed with a veto-proof majority since even most Republicans reqliE how important they are). Trump was probably the best thing to happen to Russia in recent history.

This is realized by the fact that the Russians pushed for Trump to win, they know that he would be better for them than Clinton or Biden. Why would they support Trump if they thought Biden would be easier?

There are many ancillary policies that can be pointed to, such as shrinking German bases and closing European bases that the Russians loved. Also, Nato bashing.
March 4th, 2022 at 7:11:29 AM permalink
kenarman
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lmao

Biden is doing infinitely better than Donny would have in this situation.

And before one of our members who has been affected by Fox brain worms replies that “Putin never would have invaded if Donny were president.” This is true, but not because Donny was strong and Biden is weak. Donny was giving Putin everything he wanted: weakening NATO and undermining the EU. Of course Putin wasn’t going to rock the boat while his puppet was doing all his bidding.


The situation wouldn't have happened if Trump was in office. People in the US wanted to take the nuclear football from Trump because they were scared he might actually use nukes. Do you think Putin wouldn't we wondering the same thing. Putin would have been too scared to invade Ukraine because he couldn't be sure what Trump might do. Putin knows that Biden won't do anything meaningful.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
March 4th, 2022 at 8:10:20 AM permalink
JimRockford
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Sacrifices have to be made in time of war. Especially when the other side, who never bluffs, is threatening nuclear war. Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, and trying to cause a nuclear meltdown in the largest nuclear plant in Europe. Which will spread nuclear contamination world-wide. Russian oil is only 3% of US oil consumption. We could make up some of the difference by drilling more here. Thanks to Biden's policies, the US is producing 1.7 million fewer barrels per month.

Biden has not sanctioned Russian oil, but imports have slowed to a trickle since January, so it may not matter.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-has-not-sanctioned-russian-oil-traders-are-avoiding-it-2022-03-01/

Not for lack of trying but Biden hasn't caused the reduction in US domestic production. Producers have plenty of sources already permitted. they have cut back production for their own reasons. I linked several sources earlier.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-well-backlog-shrinks-us-shale-may-upset-investors-drill-more-2021-09-14/
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/oil-gas-industry-stockpiled-drilling-leases-before-biden-pause
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
March 4th, 2022 at 10:40:05 AM permalink
RonC
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If oil producers can’t make money, they don’t drill as much. If the government seems like it may make drilling more costly, they won’t take as many chances on new sites. If they don’t think production will be profitable on a site due to the amount they may be able to extract, they don’t use questionable sites.

It is always a combination of things…but a hostile government attitude adds another layer to the decisions to drill.

It isn’t as simple as “Biden did it”…but his policies and leftist swing have at least been a partial cause of drilling slowing down.
March 4th, 2022 at 11:09:18 AM permalink
RonC
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Double post
March 5th, 2022 at 5:15:26 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: JimRockford
Biden has not sanctioned Russian oil, but imports have slowed to a trickle since January, so it may not matter.

Not for lack of trying but Biden hasn't caused the reduction in US domestic production. Producers have plenty of sources already permitted. they have cut back production for their own reasons.


Russian oil imports were down 80% in January. Sanctions can eliminate the remaining 20%. The Biden administration believes that would only drive up the price of a barrel of oil, and work to Putin’s advantage.

The best solution is to produce more oil here, but oil companies reduced their drilling and exploration investments 60%, and directed new investments to renewables, due to uncertainty over government policy. They are not about to invest and risk tens of billions of dollars drilling new wells, when a President or a Judge can shut them down with the stroke of a pen.

Now, Biden is asking them to ramp up drilling, and the Governor of Alaska has said his state is ready to increase oil and gas production if Biden allows it. So far, he hasn't. He should.

Every time the price of a barrel of oil increases 50%, a recession always follows. Oil prices are up 179% since election day.
March 5th, 2022 at 5:40:47 AM permalink
terapined
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Russian oil imports were down 80% in January. Sanctions can eliminate the remaining 20%. The Biden administration believes that would only drive up the price of a barrel of oil, and work to Putin’s advantage.

The best solution is to produce more oil here, but oil companies reduced their drilling and exploration investments 60%, and directed new investments to renewables, due to uncertainty over government policy. They are not about to invest and risk tens of billions of dollars drilling new wells, when a President or a Judge can shut them down with the stroke of a pen.

Now, Biden is asking them to ramp up drilling, and the Governor of Alaska has said his state is ready to increase oil and gas production if Biden allows it. So far, he hasn't. He should.

Every time the price of a barrel of oil increases 50%, a recession always follows. Oil prices are up 179% since election day.

My understanding is that oil companies are fine where they are in not doing any new drilling
Oil prices goes up and down
"As world scrambles for oil, Canadian producers reluctant to spend on growth | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/world-scrambles-oil-canadian-producers-reluctant-spend-growth-2022-03-03/
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March 5th, 2022 at 6:54:28 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: terapined
My understanding is that oil companies are fine where they are in not doing any new drilling
Oil prices goes up and down
"As world scrambles for oil, Canadian producers reluctant to spend on growth | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/world-scrambles-oil-canadian-producers-reluctant-spend-growth-2022-03-03/


Canada is reluctant to up production because it has no way to get more oil to market. Keystone pipeline was shutdown by Biden. This whole energy crisis is entirely on Biden and Greta's friends in Europe. Russia has been funding American green protest groups for years to get to where we are now.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
March 5th, 2022 at 11:08:27 AM permalink
Tanko
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Ukraine News UK
March 5th, 2022 at 11:24:00 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: kenarman
Canada is reluctant to up production because it has no way to get more oil to market. Keystone pipeline was shutdown by Biden. This whole energy crisis is entirely on Biden and Greta's friends in Europe. Russia has been funding American green protest groups for years to get to where we are now.


I have to wonder why Canada felt they needed to run the pipeline into the USA as opposed to having it end at a Canadian location on or near one of the great lakes?

They could build refineries there then ship it out of country if desired via bulk carrier via the Great Lakes to the Atlantic ocean.

Super-sized tankers wouldn't fit: vessels up to 740 feet (225.5 meters) long and 78 feet (23.8 meters) wide can travel through the locks.

These ships may carry as much as 32,000 tons (29,000 tonnes) of cargo, and draft up to 26.3 feet (8 meters).