Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade?

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Heard it on a podcast, cannot believe I did not notice before.

Ever notice all the bat-crazies who are upset about this potential ruling live in states that will have no plans to change abortion laws?

Quote: rxwine

You don't seem to be very well-informed.

McConnell has said he will support banning abortion federally. Once overturned that is possible with the right combo of our government in charge.

Quote: rxwine

Because it's a fact that there are women who don't want children. It's misogynistic that you would force them to stay pregnant.

Quote: rxwine

...actually i may have lowballed that estimate. Probably higher than a million.

Quote: Tanko

Doctors administer anesthesia to a fetus when performing surgery on it, in order to keep to from thrashing around. Dismemberment is the only procedure involving a fetus that does not require anesthesia. Not even potassium chloride to stop it's heart for a less painful death. Labor could then be induced and the child stillborn intact. No dismemberment necessary. Why do you think that is?

Quote: Tanko

That does not justify dismembering fetuses, conscious of pain, without the benefit of anesthesia.

Doctors administer anesthesia to a fetus when performing surgery on it, in order to keep to from thrashing around. Dismemberment is the only procedure involving a fetus that does not require anesthesia. Not even potassium chloride to stop it's heart for a less painful death. Labor could then be induced and the child stillborn intact. No dismemberment necessary. Why do you think that is?

When you eventually become unable to care for yourself and become a burden to your family and society, would it would be perfectly acceptable to you, to tear you apart limb from limb and crush your skull without anesthesia?

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he idea behind SB 234, or the Protecting Unborn Children Amendments, is to prevent a fetus from feeling pain during an abortion at 20 weeks or more. It requires a doctor performing an abortion at this stage to "administer an anesthetic or analgesic to eliminate or alleviate organic pain to the unborn child."

The problem? Thorough reviews of medical evidence reject the idea that fetuses can actually feel pain at 20 weeks. They don't fully develop the proper neurological structures to feel pain until later, around 29 to 30 weeks in the third trimester.

The bigger problem? There's really no such thing as "fetal anesthesia" in standard medical practice. And the law doesn't specify how doctors are supposed to make it happen.

"I've emailed the governor and asked him to tell me what to do, because I don't know what to do," Dr. Leah Torres, an OB-GYN and abortion provider in Utah, told Vox. "It's like saying, 'Take someone's widget out using standard medical practice.' I don't know what that means."

Dr. Sean Esplin of Intermountain Health Care told the Associated Press that to "administer an anesthetic or analgesic" to the fetus, you'd have to go through the woman first using general anesthesia — which renders her unconscious and probably requires a breathing tube — or a heavy dose of narcotics.