General Election 2024
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13 members have voted
December 29th, 2023 at 9:38:37 AM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
There is no dancing around, it has been stated several times that he has never been convicted of insurrection. What people are evaluating is if a conviction is required or if it is the general action that can be DQing. And, also personally I do not think he should be DQed (without reading more on some Civil War cases, I am open to change.) It is really not a distraction, he is almost certainly going to win the primary. It is fair to talk about the criminal actions of somebody who is quite likely (basically certainly) going to be the GOP nominee (and frankly somewhat likely to win the Presidency because of our antiquated electoral college. He will never win a popular vote, but sadly that does not matter in America...) |
December 29th, 2023 at 10:02:02 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 |
The people and the country are best served by allowing the people to vote for legally qualified candidates of their choice. The people can speak about any qualified candidate they wish. And if Donnie is DQ'd due the 14th Amendment, then he must not be on the ballot. No more than George W, or Bill Clinton or Obama (all ineligible) should be allowed on the ballot. As for both Donnie and Biden dropping out. I hear you. Don't like either candidate? Then use the power of our vote to vote for someone else. That's another way we let the people speak. |
December 29th, 2023 at 10:07:32 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 |
Some reading about the people thus far who have been DQ'd from office. Of the 8 men, 5 were never convicted of anything and their DQ was upheld. https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/past-14th-amendment-disqualifications/ |
December 29th, 2023 at 10:07:32 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 | ..... |
December 29th, 2023 at 11:17:22 AM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536 | If we are ignoring constitutional amendments barring people from ballots, Barack Obama must be allowed to run for a 3rd term. Who cares what the 22nd amendment says? Let the voters decide! “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
December 29th, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 |
My point exactly! |
December 29th, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 |
My point exactly! |
December 29th, 2023 at 1:13:20 PM permalink | |
RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 | I don't think anyone is "ignoring" a Constitutional Amendment. Amendments are open to interpretation and many, even most, may believe that the current issues does not meet the intent and/or letter of the Amendment in question. The remedy to that is the Supreme Court. They can choose to not take cases and let rulings stand by their rejection of the cases or they can take the case and make a ruling. Is there a case for President Obama to challenge his disqualification for further service in that office? Go for it if there is! My vote will not go to Trump or Biden, so I will use the ballot box to reject both of them. I doubt it will matter much in my state. |
December 29th, 2023 at 1:23:28 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12536 | I agree that this is absolutely an issue the SCOTUS needs to resolve. It’s an extremely gray area. The fact that people are saying it’s a slam dunk either way are slightly delusional. (Or maybe it is a slam dunk only because our SCOTUS is full of corrupt idiots like Clarence Thomas). “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
December 29th, 2023 at 1:26:27 PM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4969 |
Sadly, it reflects the population of idiots that we have. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |