General Election 2024

Quote: Gandler

He gave a pretty good explanation, if it was true (I honestly do not know the history offhand.) But, if the section was written to discuss actions as opposed to a legal charge that would be interesting. I would have to read more about how it was used in post Civil War election disqualifications (and if a legal conviction was required.) But, if this is an accurate representation of the history, then a charge and conviction would not be needed.

I know I have posted before, but treason and insurrection are rare charges. By rare, I mean the factor of many decades, not years since the last charge. I think the last treason charge was WWII era, and insurrection, I have no idea (probably Civil War, maybe WWI because they got pretty aggressive with such charges during WWI.) But, either way these are extreme charges usually in the context of a massive war (usually it means you are siding with an external enemy, I am not sure if they have ever been prosecuted for siding with a rogue political group -Well I guess it depends on how you define the CSA..... -)

A quick google search confirmed that somebody during the civil war was tried and executed for tearing down an American Flag after the Union liberation of New Orleans. But, this is one of the few examples of a civilian political activist I can quickly find. And, this was debatably far less of a crime than what happened on 06JAN. Now would somebody be executed for tearing down a flag today? Probably not But, compared to 06JAN, this is a minor action that was deemed to be worthy of a death penalty.

Quote: rxwine

Pretty simple that Trump tried to take the election away from the voters who already voted. Now all the outcry, that he should get another chance to be elected!

Like that's unfair somehow that he doesn't?

Quote: DoubleGold

What's your take on this article, comparatively, to the mentality before the Civil War?

The article is by the same person as my previous post.

https://datahazard.substack.com/p/american-murder

Quote: odiousgambit

I do get the feeling that this guy is using statistics to make it seem like the issue of Af/Am violence is repressed . Maybe somebody he knows got murdered.

Most Black crime is Black on Black, as they themselves know and don't need to be told. I don't think my chances of getting murdered are very high ... so I'm not going to get worked up about who might do it. I've lived in bad neighborhoods in my day, chances were higher then but still pretty low... but I adhered to the advice to 'trust your instincts and don't worry about being a racist' when personal safety was a factor. Avoidance is your friend

Should White People come to conclusions about racial factors here looking at these stats? There are a lot of things to point to that will explain this without saying "Aha Black People are More Murderous" ... such as, as I've said before, if there is a persistent Underclass in your society, then in that Underclass there is going to be a large criminal element. Why our Underclass has a skin color component can be debated without going into how Genes might be playing a role ... and this kind of stuff you are citing leads to that kind of thinking

Quote: rxwine

Interesting. If voting were a product, generally making people jump through more hoops is not going to sell more of it. Is one more likely to miss voting if you have to go the poll on a winter day *Nov 2. Or if your bones are old, to go to the polls instead of conveniently voting from home. To skip it if some emergency comes up.

Let red staters shoot themselves in the foot in the name of secure voting. Fine with me.

Quote: ams288

I agree that this is absolutely an issue the SCOTUS needs to resolve. It’s an extremely gray area. The fact that people are saying it’s a slam dunk either way are slightly delusional. (Or maybe it is a slam dunk only because our SCOTUS is full of corrupt idiots like Clarence Thomas).

Quote: odiousgambit

If you wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, anti-leniency for Blacks based on based on Woke district attorneys with their no-bail ideas etc

Quote: DoubleGold

Ignoring abortion, it looks like the blacks are being replaced.

(1) The high rate of blacks killing blacks.

(2) The illegals entering the country are mostly non-black.