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Poll

	Want = Rep, Predict = Rep		2 votes (15.38%)
	Want = Rep, Predict = Dem		1 vote (7.69%)
	Want = Dem, Predict = Rep		2 votes (15.38%)
	Want = Dem, Predict = Dem		7 votes (53.84%)
	Want = Ralph Nader, Predict = Ralph Nader		No votes (0%)
	Want = Trump, Predict = Third party		No votes (0%)
	I don't know		No votes (0%)
	I'm a bigot		2 votes (15.38%)
	I think I'm in love with RiverJordan.		2 votes (15.38%)
	Biden = checkers, Trump = chess		No votes (0%)

13 members have voted

January 6th, 2024 at 9:21:16 AM permalink

RonC

Member since: Nov 7, 2012
Threads: 8
Posts: 2510

Quote: GenoDRPh
Let us know when there is actual evidence Joe benefitted from foreign dealings. We know, for example, that millions of foreign money passed directly into Donnie's hands while Donnie was President.

We'll see where the investigation goes. Isn't that how it works?

If "Donnie" did something illegal as President regarding that money, please charge him.

You see, I am okay with investigations, charges, and convictions when warranted. Trump has been charged and may be convicted. We'll see what happens in court.

January 6th, 2024 at 10:09:52 AM permalink

ams288

Member since: Apr 21, 2016
Threads: 29
Posts: 12548

Quote: RonC
Joe Biden is a divisive person. He promised not to be, but it turns out he lied. He has not tried to bring people together.

Examples, please? What has he done that has been so divisive? (supporting and enacting liberal policies that he campaigned for doesn’t count, obviously)

Has he referred to the Jan. 6th criminals as “vermin” or something and I missed it?

“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman

January 6th, 2024 at 10:27:08 AM permalink

RonC

Member since: Nov 7, 2012
Threads: 8
Posts: 2510

Quote: ams288
Examples, please? What has he done that has been so divisive? (supporting and enacting liberal policies that he campaigned for doesn’t count, obviously)

Has he referred to the Jan. 6th criminals as “vermin” or something and I missed it?

His "MAGA" speeches are one example...

"WASHINGTON (AP) — In recent days, President Joe Biden has sharpened his attacks against Donald Trump and the so-called MAGA Republicans for posing a threat to democracy. He’s likened the philosophy undergirding the dominant strain of the modern-day GOP to “semi-fascism.”

And Democrats are taking notice.

The gloves-off, no-holds-barred approach from Biden as of late has emboldened Democrats across the country, rallying the party faithful ahead of the November elections even as his harshest rhetoric makes some vulnerable incumbents visibly uncomfortable."

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-donald-trump-presidential-pennsylvania-edd46881a1c0c71df97663ac37236f26

His own "basket of deplorables" moments come often.

January 6th, 2024 at 10:41:42 AM permalink

kenarman

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 14
Posts: 4530

Quote: ams288
Examples, please? What has he done that has been so divisive? (supporting and enacting liberal policies that he campaigned for doesn’t count, obviously)

Has he referred to the Jan. 6th criminals as “vermin” or something and I missed it?

So many of his policies are supported by well under 1/2 of the population. To force them through without a mandate for them is divisive. To run a country in a non-divisive way is to reach out and try and find some consensus among everyone not the path being dictated by the extremes in your party.

"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

January 6th, 2024 at 11:20:26 AM permalink

GenoDRPh

Member since: Aug 24, 2023
Threads: 0
Posts: 648

Quote: kenarman
So many of his policies are supported by well under 1/2 of the population. To force them through without a mandate for them is divisive. To run a country in a non-divisive way is to reach out and try and find some consensus among everyone not the path being dictated by the extremes in your party.

Joe got a majority of votes last election and a majority of electoral votes. How much more of a mandate do you want?

Joe calls out the MAGA types and Trump for their actions and their words, not necessarily for what they believe. Want to know what's "divisive"? Calling Democrats "vermin". Calling moderates "radical". Calling Democrat politicians and office holders "extreme socialists" or "communists". Calling gays and trans people "pedophiles" and sex criminals. That's being divisive.

January 6th, 2024 at 11:33:28 AM permalink
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530	Deflection as expected. The majority of the people didn't vote in favor of the path Biden has taken the country down. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

January 6th, 2024 at 11:38:25 AM permalink
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 648	Quote: kenarman Deflection as expected. The majority of the people didn't vote in favor of the path Biden has taken the country down. And Joe has ample opportunity to explain his actions to the voting public, and earn their vote in November. The majority of people didn't vote for Donnie's policies or path, either...

January 6th, 2024 at 11:46:05 AM permalink
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530	Quote: GenoDRPh And Joe has ample opportunity to explain his actions to the voting public, and earn their vote in November. The majority of people didn't vote for Donnie's policies or path, either... If you want to go down the deflection path then; but but but Trump had higher approval ratings than Biden. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin

January 6th, 2024 at 11:58:16 AM permalink
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 648	Quote: kenarman If you want to go down the deflection path then; but but but Trump had higher approval ratings than Biden. . ...and lost reelection. There's lessons there for both candidates.

January 6th, 2024 at 11:59:52 AM permalink

rxwine

Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 189
Posts: 18770

Quote:

WASHINGTON
“The FBI executed three federal arrest warrants early this morning at a ranch in Groveland, Florida in Lake County," the FBI Tampa Field Office said in a statement. "The subjects taken into custody are January 6 fugitives Jonathan Daniel Pollock, Olivia Michele Pollock, and Joseph Daniel Hutchinson III. The defendants are scheduled to appear in Federal Court in Ocala, Florida on Monday, January 8. No further details concerning their capture are available at this time.”

Jonathan Pollock has been at large since the summer of 2021, when he was indicted alongside his sister Olivia Pollock, Hutchinson and two others. Federal authorities said Hutchinson had been an employee at the Pollock family’s gun shop in Lakeland, Florida. Olivia Pollock and Hutchinson have been fugitives since the summer of 2023, when they failed to show up to their trials.

Jonathan Pollock is accused by federal authorities of helping breach a barricade and assaulting officers, grabbing one by the waist and pulling the officer down the stairs, punching another in the face, and stealing another officer's police shield.

Their co-defendants Joshua Christopher Dollin and Michael Steven Perkins were both convicted at a bench trials, and Dollin sentenced to 18 months in federal prison, while Perkins was sentenced to four years in federal prison.

You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?

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