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December 14th, 2023 at 8:55:21 AM permalink
rxwine
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Might as well add. I believe Bill Clinton decided to risk perjury because he didn't want to tell Hillary about another affair. He took a chance, he wouldn't get caught at it. But he did, and he earned the perjury charge and all scrutiny it brought him.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
December 14th, 2023 at 8:57:28 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: rxwine
I understand your premise. Although I can't take seriously adults getting upset because college students often are exploring for the first time radical themes in all areas of life. Not just politics. But each generation has its own unique take on things which might be different than a prior one, or a later one.

Unfortunately, I myself can't name offhand what was unfair to Trump that he didn't deserve. Maybe something will come to mind.


To the first part, it doesn't matter. That's why I'm saying the adults in the Blue Room need to give them a little talking to. Instead, you have institutions of higher miseducation as much as encouraging this sort of thing. I don't blame them for exploring radical ideas; I once identified as a Socialist, but the leaders need to step in and set the tone. They're too afraid of losing one vote on the far wings that they fail to appeal to moderates...who they easily could get. The alternative (for two-party mentality people) is Trump, for God's sake. You can't be more palatable than Trump!?

The first Impeachment attempt was unfair. My argument is not that all of this has been unfair; my argument is that it was mostly unnecessary and counterproductive, not to mention a waste of taxpayer funds.
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December 14th, 2023 at 8:58:49 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: rxwine
In fact, i think the attacks on biden's family are completely expected due to him not actively doing anything to set himself apart from it. Doesn't mean I believe he did it himself, but he pretty much earned all the attention he's getting. And I mean Joe not Hunter. I personally believe Joe chose to look away from it. That's what earned all the scrutiny. Now, the dues are being paid. He has to survive it.


It looks to me as if Hunter has been indicted on crimes that any number of people commit with some regularity. He's being targeted and, as far as I know, is not an elected office holder himself. You want to hold the actual office holder to a higher legal standard than others, fine.
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December 14th, 2023 at 9:00:58 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: rxwine
Might as well add. I believe Bill Clinton decided to risk perjury because he didn't want to tell Hillary about another affair. He took a chance, he wouldn't get caught at it. But he did, and he earned the perjury charge and all scrutiny it brought him.


Definitely. There's a lot of black and white there; there was perhaps some white on blue, as well. In any event, lying to Congress is lying to Congress. The Impeachment was fine, but the fact that it was personal infidelity is insufficient, in my opinion, for removal. I think it all happened as it should have. I don't blame the Republicans for that Impeachment because their constituents (especially then) were largely Christians, so you have to make your moral point.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
December 14th, 2023 at 9:02:07 AM permalink
Mission146
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Oh, to be clear, I'm not an anti-education guy; we were just taught how to make good arguments in support of our positions, not to blindly attack people we know nothing about.
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December 14th, 2023 at 9:40:00 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: kenarman
The swing states are all solidly Trump.

Arizona: Trump 46, Biden 42
Georgia: Trump 49, Biden 43
Michigan: Trump 46, Biden 42
Nevada: Trump 47, Biden 44
N. Carolina: Trump 49, Biden 40
Pennsylvania: Trump 46, Biden 44
Wisconsin: Trump 45, Biden 41


Please refrain from storming the Capitol if these numbers don’t hold up for your guy 11 months from now.
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December 14th, 2023 at 11:43:33 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: ams288
Please refrain from storming the Capitol if these numbers don’t hold up for your guy 11 months from now.


As long as your side refrains from tampering with the voting integrity this time.
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December 14th, 2023 at 11:56:16 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: kenarman
As long as your side refrains from tampering with the voting integrity this time.


How did my side tamper with voting integrity last time?

This should be good…
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December 14th, 2023 at 2:12:14 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: ams288
How did my side tamper with voting integrity last time?

This should be good…


Because Trump had bigger rallies so he should have won the election.
December 15th, 2023 at 8:51:49 AM permalink
ams288
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Still waiting for kenarman to post his theory of Dems tampering with election integrity in 2020.

Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani could probably use your assistance in their lawsuits as well!
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman