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Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?
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AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18249 |
Honda also started building here because of the "voluntary" import restraint agreement. Hondas sold themselves, they hardly needed salesmen at the dealerships. As to hp, I do remember how underpowered cars were then. It is why I laugh when I hear some journalist saying how 200hp is "slow." My Hyundai has some kind of L4 with 180 or 190 hp. Back in the 1970s or early 80s that is what most small block V-8s had. The President is a fink. |
July 31st, 2022 at 5:42:40 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
According to the EPA these are the average horsepower for US sale for 2021 by automaker 358.8 hp Tesla 305.2 hp Ford 300.6 hp BMW 300.0 hp Stellantis 299.9 hp Mercedes 289.0 hp GM 259.8 hp VW 252.2 hp Average 228.4 hp Toyota 205.1 hp Honda 194.9 hp Mazda 194.8 hp Hyundai 193.0 hp Subaru 192.2 hp Kia 192.1 hp Nissan One of the primary reasons the Toyota Prius and Toyota Corolla hybrid (which uses the Prius drivetrain) get such good mileage is the engine is only 96 hp. The combination of the engine and the electric motor yield 121 hp combined. The electric motor, of course, produces dramatic improvements in fuel economy in city traffic, but the improvement in highway mileage is primarily because of a tiny engine. City MPG:31 Highway MPG:40 2022 | Toyota Corolla with 2.0 liter engine and CVT City MPG:53 Highway MPG:52 2022 | Toyota Corolla hybrid with 1.8 liter engine and CVT City MPG:58 Highway MPG:53 2022 | Toyota Prius ECO with 1.8 liter engine and CVT |
July 31st, 2022 at 6:05:21 PM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4974 | I bought a Mazda Miata in 1990 and it was 105 horsepower. BTW, that was plenty for that little car. It was zippy. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |
July 31st, 2022 at 6:30:43 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 | My first car was a VW beetle with 36HP from 1200cc. In the 60's VW brought out the model 1500 (1500cc) and it jumped all the way to 40HP. The EMPI Inch Pincher in the 60's was a customized beetle drag racer and got 165 HP out of 1700cc. It mostly used EMPI parts which anyone could buy to soup up their own beetle. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
August 1st, 2022 at 2:29:25 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
See people seem to have fond memories of these older underpowered vehicles. Today Mitsubushi sells one of the most affordable cars on the market, the Mirage (MSRP $14,645 to $17,895) with a 1200cc engine and 3 cylinders that produces 78HP. Sales are ~367 per week this year (down from 528 per week last year). Most people won't even look at a cheap subcompact like the Mirage. |
August 1st, 2022 at 9:18:29 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
America is wrestling with the worst energy crisis in nearly five decades, a period of high prices and limited supply. What makes this crisis different than the troubles that roiled the country in the 1970s is how it started and the fixes required to make it end. |
August 1st, 2022 at 2:47:36 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11825 |
My nephew is doing his part Lives in Baltimore Uses an electric scooter to get all around town Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
August 1st, 2022 at 3:43:57 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
This image is from the Baltimore Sun, but the scooter is from a service. They can be rented for $1 to start and an additional 15 cents a minute, using a mobile app. These Canadian mini one person vehicles might become a hit The ElectraMeccanica Solo starts at $18,500 in the US, but the Canadian company has retail outlets in only five western states. Once again that is a pretty high price to pay for a single person vehicle with a 100 mile range and a top speed of 80 mph. |
August 1st, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11825 | He loves his scooter It's an Apollo Explore He uses it so much, hasn't gotten his car fixed. As you can see he takes precautions since this is his main mode of transportation Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
August 1st, 2022 at 5:09:40 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 | One of the most common cause of fires in residences now is the lithium batteries in scooters. Once they catch on fire you can't put them out. Often the cause is after market chargers or batteries. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |