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January 20th, 2021 at 8:38:59 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: terapined
Finally an adult in the White House that will not manage the country via twitter


I am not on twitter. But I think Biden can successfully use it to inform/educate the American people. If it is a direct feed from him you will get to hear exactly what he says, not the interpretation of whatever media source you currently use. Trump using twitter was not the problem, his tweets were.

Not joking here.... I wonder what the chances of Trump now doing an IPO on his brand? Although he is being shunned by a large swath of mainstream companies, there have to be tens of millions of Americans who still worship him that would buy in at any cost, thus the amount he could raise I believe would dwarf the real value of the assets/name.
January 20th, 2021 at 8:40:37 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler



Also, withdrawing from positions oversees is a bad thing. President Obama was a genius for expanding the drone programs and oversees presence. President Obama was quite possibly the best President we have had both as a person and on policy (and historical rankings seem to indicate this). Historical ranking will not be kind to President Trump, we will know more when he is truly out of office, but I am beyond confident he will average far lower than Obama (probably bottom quarter..... I would actually day bottom 3....)


Uh, no. It is a good thing to disengage from bad positions. Obama was a war monger in retrospect. History will show him to be very average. He just had a fawning media.

Trump will be like Truman. In a few decades people will see how good he did. They will think we were crazy not to give him 4 more years.

For those of you too young to remember Jimmy Carter, well, you just elected him again. Biden is already showing how weak he is, caving in on Keystone XL to protect rain and trucking interests who will now haul the oil.

Today is a very sad day in USA history. We just see a bunch of children celebrating as if they were told they can have all the cookies they want before dinner. But in a year they will get bad news from the dentist.
The President is a fink.
January 20th, 2021 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
HUGE CROWDS FOR BIDEN!



Just as predicted all of the Trumpers are already knocking the crowd at the "virtual inauguration".

This should not be said during the Age of Covid, but he does not want crowds there for everyone's saftey. This has been announced for months.

I am still confident Trump will be on Twitter later blasting the crowds (oh wait nevermind lol....)
January 20th, 2021 at 8:44:53 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Quote: Gandler

This should not be said during the Age of Covid, but he does not want crowds there for everyone's saftey. This has been announced for months.

I am still confident Trump will be on Twitter later blasting the crowds (oh wait nevermind lol....)

I'm thrilled this is not a super spreader event
If Trump won, no doubt he would continue to hold super spreader events like the one this morning where many were maskless in his crowd
Nice to see masks everywhere at the inauguration
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 20th, 2021 at 8:45:22 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Uh, no. It is a good thing to disengage from bad positions. Obama was a war monger in retrospect. History will show him to be very average. He just had a fawning media.

Trump will be like Truman. In a few decades people will see how good he did. They will think we were crazy not to give him 4 more years.

For those of you too young to remember Jimmy Carter, well, you just elected him again. Biden is already showing how weak he is, caving in on Keystone XL to protect rain and trucking interests who will now haul the oil.

Today is a very sad day in USA history. We just see a bunch of children celebrating as if they were told they can have all the cookies they want before dinner. But in a year they will get bad news from the dentist.


Ok. So I have a bet proposal, let's wait for Trump to be out of office (longest 15 mins), and let's average some third party assigned President historical rating agencies.

Would you be willing to bet Trump will have a higher score than Obama when averaged?

Since this does not involve elections or future predictions this is not an ethical violation as it is only predicting how Presidents will be rated by ranking agencies. If you think Trump is going to rank better on average, this should he easy for you to be on board with this proposal.

Of course from early data we know its not even close so this would be unfair to you. But, if you truly believed that you would jump to propose such a bet.....
January 20th, 2021 at 8:47:43 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Gandler


Just as predicted all of the Trumpers are already knocking the crowd at the "virtual inauguration".

This should not be said during the Age of Covid, but he does not want crowds there for everyone's saftey. This has been announced for months.

I am still confident Trump will be on Twitter later blasting the crowds (oh wait nevermind lol....)


But it was OK for the lefties here to put up fake photos of the crowd for Trump?

Blame Covid because he cannot attract flies.
The President is a fink.
January 20th, 2021 at 8:52:11 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Ok. So I have a bet proposal, let's wait for Trump to be out of office (longest 15 mins), and let's average some third party assigned President historical rating agencies.

Would you be willing to bet Trump will have a higher score than Obama when averaged?

Since this does not involve elections or future predictions this is not an ethical violation as it is only predicting how Presidents will be rated by ranking agencies. If you think Trump is going to rank better on average, this should he easy for you to be on board with this proposal.

Of course from early data we know its not even close so this would be unfair to you. But, if you truly believed that you would jump to propose such a bet.....


Here's the thing. Anyone who understands these things knows you have to wait 20 years or more to really rate a POTUS. I am sure the liberals rated LBJ fantastic when he was in, years later we can see the total disaster he was. Truman was hated yet we see he did good with what he had been dealt.

I will be dead in 20 years. But no need to wait around, I already know the peace and prosperity under Trump made him great. That his very good handling of the china virus was great. That people acting like children saying "PEOPLE DIED OF THE CHINA VIRUS" is just noise. That muslim states recognizing Israel was worth a Nobel Prize.

Meanwhile Obama spent 8 years talking about himself and tried to change the USA into a socialist nation. Obama was the "Entertainment Tonight" of POTUS history. People that like empty and pointless loved him. The rest of us do not waste our time with it.
The President is a fink.
January 20th, 2021 at 8:52:54 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: AZDuffman
But it was OK for the lefties here to put up fake photos of the crowd for Trump?

Blame Covid because he cannot attract flies.


Difference between Biden and Donny: Biden won’t send his press secretary out to lie about the crowd size. We’re in a pandemic, much bigger fish to fry.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 20th, 2021 at 9:03:38 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
Here's the thing. Anyone who understands these things knows you have to wait 20 years or more to really rate a POTUS. I am sure the liberals rated LBJ fantastic when he was in, years later we can see the total disaster he was. Truman was hated yet we see he did good with what he had been dealt.

I will be dead in 20 years. But no need to wait around, I already know the peace and prosperity under Trump made him great. That his very good handling of the china virus was great. That people acting like children saying "PEOPLE DIED OF THE CHINA VIRUS" is just noise. That muslim states recognizing Israel was worth a Nobel Prize.

Meanwhile Obama spent 8 years talking about himself and tried to change the USA into a socialist nation. Obama was the "Entertainment Tonight" of POTUS history. People that like empty and pointless loved him. The rest of us do not waste our time with it.


You do realize that LBJ averages the low teens? Most journals rank him in the 10-19 range (with some outliers at 2 or 3).

He is ranked very well (top quarter, there is no dispute)....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States


Trump has yet to receive a single ranking that is not in the 40s....


So if you want to compare him to LBJ, I would be fine with such a proposal as well....
January 20th, 2021 at 9:32:44 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
HUGE CROWDS FOR BIDEN!



What an awesome sight. Not a moron in attendance.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.