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January 22nd, 2022 at 5:51:27 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770 |
You seem to think rules that exist shouldn't be used if it hasn't gone to the people first. Well, until it's designed that way, it's not the way it is. I don't necessarily like it either, but that's what's been wrought. You also said the same thing about Democrats with a barely there majority not supposed to pass a big bill like BBB. That's also allowed. Until that's changed it's perfectly valid. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
January 22nd, 2022 at 9:27:46 PM permalink | |
SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4178 |
If they could pass that bill under the rules that exist they would have passed that bill a long time ago. I just think they are idiots to pass the big bill in the House until they knew it would pass in the Senate. They should have passed NO bill until they knew what would pass in the Senate. To not have any potential outliers (Manchin and Sinema) on board BEFORE it is passed in the House is the height of stupidity. Of course the Arizona Democrat Party could censure Sinema because they did censure her. If they think 1. She will now do what the Arizona Democrat wants her to do, or 2. The Arizona population is now more likely to vote for a primary challenger because Sinema was censured by party bosses, then they are even more stupid than I imagined. |
January 23rd, 2022 at 5:09:44 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220 |
Not only that, but the Tea Party was the PEOPLE, not the PARTY itself. Thus I do not even find it valid to be honest. I just find some liberals here upset that I am pointing out how the Democrat Party treats its own elected members. Obey or else should be their motto. The President is a fink. |
January 23rd, 2022 at 5:27:54 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770 |
Just like your party. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
January 23rd, 2022 at 6:37:11 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Says a Trump supporter!!!???!!!!???? You can't even be serious right now. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
January 23rd, 2022 at 6:40:20 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
I think they passed the bill in the House first to put extra pressure on Manchin, who they knew would be a problem for them. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
January 23rd, 2022 at 6:41:46 AM permalink | |
RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
I don’t care that they did that. It just shows that the whole party has turned more progressive and reckless in nature. 70%-80% of people want voter ID. These bills are not in touch with where the citizens stand on issues. It certainly was not worth blowing up the Senate over. Perhaps they should work on making sure all States run by Democrats allow the same opportunity to vote that many Republican ones provide before trying to take over elections at the Federal level. That would not be the big win they are looking for and they would have to work in those states on it, but it is actually something a lot of people would support. |
January 23rd, 2022 at 8:03:01 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220 |
What does being a Trump supporter have to do with anything? How are Trump supporters different from Obama supporters? The President is a fink. |
January 23rd, 2022 at 8:04:26 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18220 |
It is common for this kind of thing to pass the House first. The House has different procedural rules and tends to be more partisan no matter which party is in charge. The President is a fink. |
January 23rd, 2022 at 10:48:51 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
They're not; that's my point. More to the point, the Democratic Party is no different than the Trump Establishment/Republican Party. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |