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May 23rd, 2016 at 2:26:01 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | The French did not want to give up French Indo China after the war despite all the nationalist sentiment, arms and ammunition available. The British had similar sentiments about Malaya's rubber and oil fields. Heck, the Vietnamese beat the French Foreign Legion... anyone who can do that is determined to attain an ultimate victory. |
May 23rd, 2016 at 2:56:55 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18264 |
Kennedy and mostly Johnson got us in, Nixon deescalated things, the troop number peaked just as he took office then fell as fast as it rose. But we did not commit any more war crimes than the north did. As to arming them, smart move for now. Distracts China. Smart to let someone else help fight your battle. Never permanent allies, just permanent interests. The President is a fink. |
May 23rd, 2016 at 3:06:57 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11826 |
Nixon wouldn't end the war due to "peace with honor" BS Sure the USA committed a ton of war crimes The whole civil war was none of our business What justification is there to cause a million Viet Nam citizens to die? Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
May 23rd, 2016 at 3:12:04 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18264 |
Not BS. Any smart leader knows that you want to negotiate peace from strength, not slither out with your tail between your legs.
I guess you have never heard of what happened to millions in Vietnam and Cambodia during the "reeducation" process? The President is a fink. |
May 23rd, 2016 at 3:20:31 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Dominoes. Seriously. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
May 23rd, 2016 at 3:22:52 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11826 |
Sure you do if you have no justification to be there waging war In the end we slithered out with a tail between the legs Slithering out earlier would have saved American lives We were not negotiating from strength We were losing and they knew it.
So what We did not fight that war to prevent reeducation process Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
May 23rd, 2016 at 4:28:08 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18264 |
Learn about Operation Linebacker and how we forced them back to the negotiating table.
Hmmm, in my history class we fought it to prevent the spread of communism, which we knew killed en masse via "re-education" most places it spread to. The President is a fink. |
May 23rd, 2016 at 7:05:42 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18829 |
I practically agree with you in some respects. Arming someone where the government is relatively stable and no major hostilities are underway is way to balance the power in the region before a major conflict occurs. Letting it progress to a war or invasion and then arming them, or doing anything for that matter, is a lot less desirable. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
May 23rd, 2016 at 10:15:49 PM permalink | |
Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | Don't forget: Above South Vietnam is where the astronauts put on the brakes to land. We couldn't let some rice farmer throw a spear or anything. Medals, promotions.... great stuff. |
May 24th, 2016 at 2:34:57 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18264 |
That is the dirty little secret of good foreign policy, just as you put it, except that we will tolerate small wars. The more money China has to put into an army to watch India and Vietnam the less they have to put into a navy that makes life harder for the USA. The President is a fink. |