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Quote: Evenbob

it's sure not about winning anything.

It never is. Its about saving face.
LBJ threw massive amounts of men and bombs and whitewash at the Vietnam War to keep from being the president who lost .... its the same way with all these 'stan' countries we've been in... its let teh next administration leave with its tail between its legs.

Quote: Evenbob

What is it in Afghanistan that we don't know
about? Obama and Trump both ran on the
get out of there platform',

This guy says it very well, from 1: 15

Yes Obama did run on get us out of foreign entanglements, but he also ran on holding Wall street bankers feet to the fire for the crimes they committed undermining the world's financial system.

There is also no good reason to be at war in Syria or Yemen. We are in over our heads and it's getting harder to get air.

Quote: Nareed

There was much wrong with Columbus. Not least the fact he never understood what he stumbled into.

The Nazi, KKK, White Supremacist rally did have an effect. It apparently speeded up the challenge and/or removal of controversial figures.

Quote: Evenbob

What is it in Afghanistan that we don't know
about? Obama and Trump both ran on the
'get out of there platform', yet Obama spent
8 years building the war up, and now Trump
is doing the same thing. All the experts say
there will never be any kind of victory
there, in 200 years of wars nobody has
ever beaten them. It must be the strategy
of having 10K troops in that part of the
world on a permanent basis, it's sure not
about winning anything.

Reading between the lines, Pakistan is a current or very brewing problem. It also lets us sit on the edge of Russia, forever. This was a Russian concern after 9/11, allow access and we would never leave. There used to be rumors we needed a pipeline, I don't see that as much.

Clearly something is more than meets the eye. I really hoped Trump was going to cut out losses. At least it does sound like he is getting rid of silly engagement rules. Time to tell the generals to use the blood and guts of Taliban members to grease the tracks of our tanks.

Quote: rxwine

The Nazi, KKK, White Supremacist rally did have an effect. It apparently speeded up the challenge and/or removal of controversial figures.

You know, it's all well and good to remove monuments to traitors and racists, but how does that improve the lives of African Americans and other minorities?

all too often, I think we get bogged down fighting over symbols while neglecting the real problems.

Will Trump give Saint Joe a pardon? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-22/phoenix-police-and-fbi-high-alert-ahead-trump-rally-tonight

It could be the military industrial complex
keeping us in Afghanistan. It helps the
economy for private industry, and gives
the military a constant place to test new
weapons on real targets in real time. And
we're really dug in there, been there 18
years and counting. That's a helluva long
time.

why test new weapons just use up the old ones and buy more.
anyone see the photo of 24 dead dogs the civilan contractor no longer needed?

Trump hasn't completely endorsed Kelli Ward, but he keeps complimenting her. Mitch McConnell's super pac has funded this commercial, and needlessly to say it's an effective advertisement!

If Ward gets the nomination, there's a decent chance the Dems could pick up this Senate seat currently held by Republican Jeff Flake whom Trump hates. She seems like a nice lady with crazy ideas.

Quote: reno

Trump hasn't completely endorsed Kelli Ward, but he keeps complimenting her.

Shouldn't someone remind him there is no gratitude in politics?