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January 10th, 2019 at 5:11:18 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: Evenbob
Nobody cares


This is why your side is losing this battle so badly.

He said Mexico would pay for it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN for years.

You can’t just say “nobody cares” now and expect anyone to be okay with American taxpayers paying for the stupid thing.

The Dems are playing this exactly right. Force Donald to declare the national emergency. Then sue when he does and tie it up in the court system for years.
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January 10th, 2019 at 5:45:54 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: ams288
.You can’t just say “nobody cares” now


Only the Left cares, his base just wants
the wall any way they can get it. And
Trump knows if he fails, he's toast. So
he'll find a way.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 10th, 2019 at 6:52:33 PM permalink
Dalex64
Member since: Mar 8, 2014
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Quote: ams288
This is why your side is losing this battle so badly.

He said Mexico would pay for it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN for years.

You can’t just say “nobody cares” now and expect anyone to be okay with American taxpayers paying for the stupid thing.

The Dems are playing this exactly right. Force Donald to declare the national emergency. Then sue when he does and tie it up in the court system for years.


I guess nobody cares that Obama broke 17 promises, such as "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, and Mexico is going to pay for him!"
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
January 10th, 2019 at 7:08:27 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
I guess nobody cares that Obama broke 17 promises


Not really, he got reelected didn't he?
Had decent poll numbers right till
the end.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 10th, 2019 at 7:29:09 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Here's Hannity with his best friend on
the border. Do the SS men practice
that steely look in the mirror every
day? Some of them are scary.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 11th, 2019 at 4:06:50 AM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: Evenbob
Here's Hannity with his best friend on
the border. Do the SS men practice
that steely look in the mirror every
day? Some of them are scary.


Maybe they’re pissed off that they’re not getting paid cause of this stupid stunt.
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January 11th, 2019 at 5:53:27 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: reno
It's fascinating that Trump waited until the Democrats took over the House before he got serious about the Mexican border. He was in a much much better position to negotiate a year ago.


I think this is the main takeaway point. When the Repubs had both houses he could not get the funding he wanted but he clearly waited until the Dems had the House to force a shutdown. Had he done a shutdown while all 3 (House, Senate, Prez) were Republican the Prez would have looked even worse than he does now. Kind of he looked while trying to end the ACA...
January 11th, 2019 at 7:32:04 AM permalink
Fleastiff
Member since: Oct 27, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
I think this is the main takeaway point. ..
Trump does not negotiate, he pouts.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:12:27 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
Member since: Sep 3, 2013
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Quote: SOOPOO
I think this is the main takeaway point. When the Repubs had both houses he could not get the funding he wanted but he clearly waited until the Dems had the House to force a shutdown. Had he done a shutdown while all 3 (House, Senate, Prez) were Republican the Prez would have looked even worse than he does now. Kind of he looked while trying to end the ACA...


He DID start the shutdown while all 3 were Republican. The shutdown started after funding for those 7 agencies ran out on Dec. 21, 2018, when all were still in power. They even came back to town, having left for Christmas, but couldn't get their act together.

Blaming the Democrats is a political stunt. The Republicans did not fund this when they could have. Funds for the wall have been in both Trump budget requests. The Republican Congress did not appropriate the money. The Democratic House doesn't want to, either. Along with at least 12 House R"s and 5 Senate R's. And more defecting every day.
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January 11th, 2019 at 9:39:42 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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UhOh. Brain trust Occasional Cortex's New Green
Deal is just a copy and pasted Bernie Sanders
2015 bill called Keep it in the Ground. That bill
was rejected because it can't and won't work,
now here it is with a new name. LOL
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.